Hello spider
You only looked at the first line of my post and draw conclusions. 
Please I will paste here the whole of my previous post for a more 
deeper understanding of what was written. 

"A non-grasping mind - or awareness as you want to call it- does not
experience or move along the grooves of fun and no fun. It is a mind
made of ROCK -figuratively speaking- towards these grooves, but a
mind made of ETHER -also figuratively- towards what  REMAINS OF 
HUMAN EXPERIENCE AFTER THESE GROOVES ARE LEVELLED AND NO LONGER 
GROOVES."

Thank you 
hsin
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 In [email protected], "spider" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From: "hsin_shang" > A non-grasping mind - or awareness as you 
want to call
> it- does not experience or move along the grooves of fun and no 
fun.>
> 
> So when a Zen Master makes love to a beautiful person it is the 
same to him
> as if he fell down a flight of stairs? When he holds his infant 
son in his
> arms for the first time after the child was born, to a Zen Master 
it is the
> same as a bowel movement?
> 
> So becoming a Zen Master is like becoming an insensitive clod or a 
wooden
> stump? It seems odd that so many people seem to believe Zen is an 
extreme of
> insensitivity? Instead of seeing & feeling more you think that 
becoming
> enlightened means that all experience in life is lumped together to
> eliminate pain and joy?




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