Hi David

>Indeed. Buddha has said, "One who sees dependent arising sees the Dhamma 
>and one who sees the Dhamma sees dependent arising." In an earlier email I 
>quoted
>
>When there is this, that comes to be.
>With the arising of this, that arises.
>When there is not this, that does not come to be.
>With the cessation of this, that ceases.
>
>Observer and observed arise together. Self and nonself arise together. By 
>investigating the subjective experience of "self", dependent arising ceases.

Hm! This is interesting.  I'm not used to thinking about it this way.  A 
question - in your earlier email, you said: "Fun (and everything else 
arising as "other" in our awareness) is in the realm of dependent arising."

Does fun (or anything else arising in awareness) necessarily have to be 
experienced as "other"?  Can't the feeling of fun arise without being 
perceived in terms of self and other?

Ian



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