On Monday, December 12, 2005 2:24 AM "Al" posted:
>From: "Bill Smart" >>Zen is more about what YOU have to say (or do, or not
>do) - right NOW - as a response to THIS SITUATION; and not what someone
else
>said at some other time in some other, even seemingly similar, situation.<<

>I disagree. Unlike Heidegger or Wittgenstein who were a couple of smelly
old
>eccentric fart-sniffers, Zen has had hundreds of Zen Masters who have left
>ample records, advice, and procedures for Zen practice. Zen is not about
>YOU. And nobody really wants to know what YOU think, except for YOU. YOU
are
>not an authority about anything.

>I am reminded of people that call radio stations so that they can talk on
>the radio and listen to themselves on their own radio. At the end of each
>sentence they stop talking so that they can hear themselves at home. That
is
>why they are always told to turn off their radio before going on. In this
>case, perhaps you should turn off your e-mail every time you post a remark.

This is a forum.  A forum is a meeting place for the open discussion of
ideas - in this forum, ideas about zen.  As long as you have an open mind
you don't have to be an authority on anything to engage in or benefit from a
forum.  I can't believe you are suggesting otherwise.

But, in fact, I am an authority in one thing - me.  I am the highest
authority in the world on what I have experienced, what I think, what I feel
and what I believe.  I participate in this forum to EXCHANGE experiences,
thoughts, feelings and beliefs with the other participants who are likewise
authorities in their own right.

In re-reading my post above I just don't understand why it set you off so
much.  If you disagree, just say so - and you did, but you said so very
meanly.  All you need to do is to tell me what you think based on your
experiences - including your reading if you wish to cite that.  Maybe it was
the perceived tone of my statement.  I guess I could precede everything with
'in my opinion', or 'my understanding is', etc...; but I would think anyone
participating in a forum like this would already know everything posted is
just someone's opinion.

My postings are part of this public record.  They reveal who I am, just as
your postings reveal who you are.

Keep them coming - I will...

...Gassho, Bill!




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