Net-SNMP on Windows, with the "Windows Extension Install" exposes everything the Windows SNMP service does AND everything that a normal UNIX/Linux Net-SNMP install does, including CPU, etc. that are normally only accessible using a 3rd party program. In Zenoss, if you model it as a Linux box, you'll get the CPU and stuff, as a Windows box, it's looking for all of the Informant extensions, and thus isn't finding the CPU. Obviously a template fix is in order.
On Mon, 2007-08-13 at 09:35 -0400, Matthew Keller wrote: > I didn't realize until this post that it was available for Windows. I'm > having all sorts of problems with Informant, on 2 of my boxes, and will > be looking into this stat, and report back. > > On Mon, 2007-08-13 at 09:20 -0400, James Pulver wrote: > > Has anyone looked into using Net-SNMP on windows with Zenoss? Will it > > get us more than Informant? > > > > -- > > James Pulver > > Information Technology Area Supervisor > > LEPP Computer Group > > Cornell University > > > > > > > > Jones Steve-R4AAJL wrote: > > > I've been talking to the Zenoss management - and I have filled them in > > > on the realities of their current pricing model and I believe/hope they > > > are looking at re-vamping their model. > > > > > > Serious management shops look at system management in two planes: Simple > > > management and Complex Management. This is largely based upon the > > > criticality of the systems. If I were looking at HP Openview I would > > > sink some money in high cost agents for a very few systems, then rely on > > > SNMP agents for everything else. Network hardware management is another > > > issue -- it really should be commodity pricing. > > > > > > Honestly, in the Linux realm and now in the Windows realm, Net-SNMP can > > > do just about anything one would desirefrom an agent standpoint. The > > > only missing piece is Net-SNMP config management. > > > > > > BTW, if you read the Zenoss website closely it will be no surprise that > > > Zenoss does have two different software offerings. They actually > > > provide a feature comparison. > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Pulver > > >> Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 2:45 PM > > >> To: General discussion of using zenoss system > > >> Subject: Re: [zenoss-users] Multi-tentant? > > >> > > >> This does worry me. I picked Zenoss over other products > > >> because of its > > >> open nature. I don't really like the idea of there being parts locked > > >> away from the community, especially as I've seen how good a > > >> job OSS does > > >> with many many other products. > > >> > > >> I don't, of course, begrudge Zenoss making money. And I like > > >> the idea of > > >> Zenpacks as purchasable products - I'd like it more if I could, say, > > >> purchase a Zenpack for $500 or something, rather than a > > >> subscription all > > >> or nothing sort of thing. > > >> > > >> I'd also like some clarification on the licensing - say, can > > >> I buy the > > >> 50 system enterprise, and register say, 50 critical servers, and then > > >> monitor 1,000 more with only community support for getting > > >> them to work? > > >> > > >> I guess my biggest issue is cost, so I'll take what I can get > > >> for free. > > >> Especially as I have no idea what I'd really gain from > > >> Enterprise - most > > >> of it looks like stuff I don't need. > > >> > > >> -- > > >> James Pulver > > >> Information Technology Area Supervisor > > >> LEPP Computer Group > > >> Cornell University > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Todd Davis wrote: > > >>> What concerns me about this is that it sounds like they are > > >> planning on > > >>> splintering the Core/Enterprise versions even further. Some of the > > >>> items listed are the types of things that the community has been > > >>> requesting for some time. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Although I have no problem with a company making some money from a > > >>> product, even an open source one, Zenoss Enterprise pricing > > >> is a little > > >>> steep at a minimum $5000/yr. I might be inclined to look > > >> at Enterprise > > >>> in some situations, like the multi-dashboard, but without > > >> seeing how it > > >>> works I don't know if I can justify it. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Also, I'd like to see them offer some of the features (eg. > > >> ZenPacks) as > > >>> an a'la carte option. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of > > >> *Jones Steve-R4AAJL > > >>> *Sent:* Friday, August 10, 2007 8:37 AM > > >>> *To:* General discussion of using zenoss system; General > > >> discussion of > > >>> using zenoss system > > >>> *Subject:* RE: [zenoss-users] Multi-tentant? > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Tim, this issue with that roadmap is that it is only available to > > >>> Enterprise customers and not pre-viewable to normal Internet > > >>> Interlopers. I personally would like to see a version of > > >> Enterprise > > >>> that is installable and runnable by anyone who wishes to > > >> download it. > > >>> Clearly, the logistics are cumbersome but many of your > > >> competitors have > > >>> this very model. > > >>> > > >>> Steve Jones > > >>> Engineering Compute \\ - - // > > >>> Freescale Semiconductor ( @ @ ) > > >>> > > >> ----------------------------oOOo-(_)-oOOo---------------------------- > > >>> .oooO > > >>> --------------------------- ( )-- Oooo. > > >> --------------------------- > > >>> Office:512-996-6708 \ ( ( ) > > >>> Pager: 888-944-7522 \_) ) / > > >>> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (_/ > > >>> > > >> -------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> ---------- > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> This e-mail, and any associated attachments have been classified as: > > >>> [ ] Freescale Semiconductor General Business > > >>> [X] Freescale Semiconductor Internal Use Only > > >>> [ ] Freescale Semiconductor Confidential Proprietary > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> -----Original Message----- > > >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Tim Galligan > > >>> Sent: Fri 8/10/2007 7:44 AM > > >>> To: 'General discussion of using zenoss system' > > >>> Subject: RE: [zenoss-users] Multi-tentant? > > >>> > > >>> We (Zenoss) are very focused on our MSP customers and are doing the > > >>> following to support the requirements of Multi-Tenancy: > > >>> > > >>> 1) We added the Global Dashboard in Enterprise Edition V2.0 which > > >>> enables MSP to easily manage multiple Zenoss Server > > >> instances from one > > >>> dashboard. Using this approach our MSP's are able to put up a Zenoss > > >>> Server for each customer, provide them access to the > > >> information and then > > >>> use the Global Dashboard in the NOC to see a consolidated > > >> view of all > > >>> customers. > > >>> > > >>> 2) With Enterprise Release V2.1 we will be adding a > > >> restricted READONLY > > >>> view which will allow you to define exactly what managed > > >> resources you > > >>> want a user (customer) to see and they will have a view of only that > > >>> information in a readonly mode. V2.1 is targeted for release in late > > >>> September. Enterprise subscribers can get early access as needed. > > >>> > > >>> 3) Roadmap for Enterprise Edition Release: We will > > >> support full device > > >>> ACL's. This way you will be able to setup user (customer) as an > > >>> administrator or user and you will be able to specify the managed > > >>> resources they can see. The difference between the #2 and > > >> #3 is that you > > >>> can provide someone with full admin capabilities for > > >> specific managed > > >>> resources with the device ACL's > > >>> > > >>> Tim > > >>> > > >>> -----Original Message----- > > >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jones > > >> Steve-R4AAJL > > >>> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 10:26 PM > > >>> To: [email protected] > > >>> Subject: RE: [zenoss-users] Multi-tentant? > > >>> > > >>> This company has a product that does what you are asking > > >>> > > >> http://manageengine.adventnet.com/products/opmanager/msp/index > > >> .html. We > > >>> looked at it but had to drop the investigation because the > > >> tool could > > >>> not handle supernetted networks and appeared to be more stable on a > > >>> Windows platform. Your mileage may differ from ours -- we > > >> haven't looked > > >>> at it about 8 months. > > >>> > > >>>> -----Original Message----- > > >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of oms > > >>>> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 6:39 PM > > >>>> To: [email protected] > > >>>> Subject: [zenoss-users] Multi-tentant? > > >>>> > > >>>> Hi, > > >>>> > > >>>> I have been trying out Zenoss for a little while now and have > > >>>> been comparing it with a few competing products > > >>>> (Centreo/Nagios, Groundwork etc). > > >>>> > > >>>> I really like the look and feel to Zenoss but unfortunately I > > >>>> dont think it can do what we are looking for. > > >>>> > > >>>> We (and upstart NOC type company) will be offering services > > >>>> to multiple clients, each of which will have a single user. > > >>>> What we require from our NMS is that we can configure, for > > >>>> example, 50 clients each of which having 50 or so devices. > > >>>> > > >>>> We need to keep each client completely separated from the > > >>>> other yet only run one instance of the Zenoss software. We > > >>>> will most likely be purchasing Zenoss Enterprise or the > > >>>> equivalent but the above requirement is a must. > > >>>> > > >>>> I have been playing with Zenoss and trying to replicate what > > >>>> I have mentioned above by creating "organizers" in various > > >>>> ways, yet it seems very restrictive to do this and there is > > >>>> some information leakage between the clients (i.e even though > > >>>> I restricted a certain user by only allowing them to view a > > >>>> certain "Group", that user still saw information from other > > >>>> groups in certain cases). > > >>>> > > >>>> You may think of as an ISP or similar where our clients will > > >>>> have duplicated IP addressing schemes which we need to > > >>>> monitor through separated VPN's. > > >>>> > > >>>> We can do this magic at the routers (NAT etc) but there is > > >>>> obviously no way in Zenoss to store two devices (say > > >>>> 10.1.1.1) for two different users....or is there? Each client > > >>>> will need to log on to a "web portal" of sorts and access > > >>>> information ONLY pertinent to them. > > >>>> > > >>>> If Zenoss cannot do this, would you be kind enough to > > >>>> recommend one that can? > > >>>> > > >>>> Thanks in advance, and thanks for an awesome product. > > >>>> > > >>>> btw- the above was tested on 2.0.3) > > >>>> > > >>>> oms > > >>>> > > >>>> ------------------------ > > >>>> unset > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> -------------------- m2f -------------------- > > >>>> > > >>>> Read this topic online here: > > >>>> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=9785#9785 > > >>>> > > >>>> -------------------- m2f -------------------- > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> _______________________________________________ > > >>>> zenoss-users mailing list > > >>>> [email protected] > > >>>> http://lists.zenoss.org/mailman/listinfo/zenoss-users > > >>>> > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > >>> zenoss-users mailing list > > >>> [email protected] > > >>> http://lists.zenoss.org/mailman/listinfo/zenoss-users > > >>> > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > >>> zenoss-users mailing list > > >>> [email protected] > > >>> http://lists.zenoss.org/mailman/listinfo/zenoss-users > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >> -------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> ---------- > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > >>> zenoss-users mailing list > > >>> [email protected] > > >>> http://lists.zenoss.org/mailman/listinfo/zenoss-users > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> zenoss-users mailing list > > >> [email protected] > > >> http://lists.zenoss.org/mailman/listinfo/zenoss-users > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > > > zenoss-users mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > http://lists.zenoss.org/mailman/listinfo/zenoss-users > > _______________________________________________ > > zenoss-users mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.zenoss.org/mailman/listinfo/zenoss-users > > _______________________________________________ > zenoss-users mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.zenoss.org/mailman/listinfo/zenoss-users _______________________________________________ zenoss-users mailing list [email protected] http://lists.zenoss.org/mailman/listinfo/zenoss-users
