Before all thanks for your kind and quick reply!

Ok all your answers are quite clear.
Just some other question:

A) Scheduled downtime:
In nagios the main advantage of "scheduled downtime" (or maintenance windows as 
you prefer to define it...the concept is the same) is NON ONLY the ability to 
turnoff emails but, above all, the ability to have detailed statistics. I mean:
if you have a customer that needs to know the uptime, you can create a report 
and, supposing it shows 98% of uptime and 2% of downtime, the customer could 
say to you (as alread happened to me!): hey guy could you explain to me because 
uptime is not 100%?! 
And I kindly replied: 
the 2% of dowtime really is distinguished between 1,90% of "schedule dowtime" 
(patches applied to servers, hardware maintenance etcc...). and 0,10 of real 
problems. So...your uptime is quite perfect!
This is the nagios's default and I think it is an excellent way! :) 

B) Recurring scheduled dowtime:
This is a future that nagios doesn't provide out of the box but in the nagios's 
faq there is a workaround that, to sum up, consists in a cron job.
http://www.nagios.org/faqs/viewfaq.php?faq_id=80&expand=false&showdesc=false
This can be useful when you know that some servers (tipically windows) are 
rebooted every weeks or every months. The ability to configure a "recurring 
scheduled downtime" is useful because you don't have to manual configure it 
every week and uptime's statistichs won't be affected.

C) Samba and encryption protocol
So..Zenoss use samba! This is a great way to work my best compliment to Zenoss 
team!
I have only a question about this topic:
In a windows 2003 Active Directory, isn't kerberos the default protocol? I 
always thought that when you login to your domain or when you configure a 
windows service with a specific domain user (in my case nrpe_nt), you use 
KERBEROS and not ntlm. I know this is not a Zenoss questions so...I only ask 
you a shor reply about this.

D) Webinject,Nagvis and network whatermap
- Webinject
Webinject is a web application test tool. To sum up you can simulate an entiere 
transaction. One example: to simulate the login to your webmail and check for 
new mail.
It is a nagios plugins already integrated in groudnwork that autocamically 
creates rrd files.
Anyway I just founded  that Zenoss provide ZenWebTX:
http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/monitoring-websites-with-httpmonitor.
It explain at the end of the page:
In addition to the HttpMonitor Core ZenPack, there is another ZenPack related 
to web monitoring available for Enterprise customers: ZenWebTX. ZenWebTx 
extends Zenoss' web monitoring capabilities beyond the simple uptime, load 
time, and size checks available in the Core version.
With ZenWebTx you can have Zenoss navigate through your entire web application 
checking for compliance at each step. Multiple timers can be set along the way 
to measure response time for each operation of the synthetic transaction as 
well as the total time for the entire transaction to complete.
So..I replied by myself
b) Nagvis is a tool that enable you to import visio (but not only) files and to 
have red or gree on this "map". Very useful to identy where the problem is 
physically on.
I think Zenoss doesn't incluede it
d) Network whatermap is a great tool that enable to have a graphical and 
realtime rappresentation of your bandwith usage and workflow. Have a look to 
him it is very impressive.
I think Zenoss doesn't include it.


So..at the end I'll expose my personal considerations about "groundwork vs 
zenoss". Please tell me what you think about it:
Before all I think that in order to give a final sentence you need to know both 
products. Anyway my opinion is:
Zenoss commercial version is much more expensive than Groundwork commercial 
version but it is definitively superior because provides more and more "out of 
the box plugins" (example: websphere doesn't exist for groundwork and I need 
it) and the user's interface is much more nice and user friendly.  Zenoss core 
is much more castrated than groundwork (above all speaking about wmi that I 
tested with Zenoss and groundwork both) so..if your businnes doesn't require 
commercial version Groundowrk is better otherwise Zenoss could be a better 
choise.
Anyway both ot them are great products!


Please tell me your opinion!




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