Hi all,

Let me ask an question: Would anybody directly benefit from 0MQ/OpenMAMA 
integration? Does anybody have MAMA applications that he wants to 
migrate to 0MQ? Or is this just a theoretical discussion?

Martin

On 11/03/2011 11:10 PM, Daniel Cegiełka wrote:
> I have mixed feelings about OpenMAMA. I expressed my opinion that the
> same functionality can be provided using ZeroMQ PUB/SUB +topic
> filtering. I really like a clean ZeroMQ API. OpenMAMA it seems that
> will have strong support, so the bridge for ZeroMQ is an opportunity,
> not threat.
>
> MAMA was a commercial product, which belonged to the NYSE. OpenMAMA
> now belongs to the Linux Foundation, so it will be developed as open
> source. Cooperation with TIBCO RV or 29West, is the search for
> solutions, how can you accept closed and open solutions.
>
> Daniel
>
>
> 2011/11/3 Ciprian Dorin Craciun<[email protected]>:
>>     Before reading my comments, please take into account that I'm not
>> against OpenMAMA (nor for it)... Both OpenMAMA and ZeroMQ are open
>> source projects, thus if someone has "an itch" to integrate them and
>> (either him or someone else) scratches it, the better for both
>> communities. (Also I'm not criticizing anyone, just presenting facts
>> from the available information.)
>>
>>     But, after reading (and interpreting) the following comments,
>>
>>
>> 2011/11/3 Daniel Cegiełka<[email protected]>:
>>> In the near future will be published documentation for preparing
>>> bridges for MAMA. We just have to wait. [...]
>>
>>     (i.e. we just have to wait (as in having zero intermediary
>> feedback) for a finished product (the documentation) from the
>> developers...)
>>
>>
>>> 2011/11/3 Jon Dyte<[email protected]>:
>>>> [...]
>>>> though I suspect
>>>> many users would stick with the NYSE DataFabric , tibco rv and 29 West
>>>> bridges.
>>>> (Those bridges are not in the open source distro)
>>
>>     (i.e. exactly the part of the whole thing which makes it worth is
>> "closed"... but even if they were I don't think running the backends
>> would be easy / cheap...)
>>
>>
>>     Contrasts (and this is an understatement) with their
>> "Understanding the OpenMAMA Development Process" charta:
>> ~~~~
>> OpenMAMA development is modeled extensively upon the proven Linux
>> kernel development process, where developers modify project code by
>> submitting patches as emails to a public mailing list. [...]
>> ~~~~
>>
>>     (BTW there is only one patch on the `-dev` mailing list in October.)
>>
>>
>>     Also by looking at the current repository --
>> http://git.openmama.org/OpenMAMA-1.1.git -- I'm just curious to see
>> how the next commit will look like... (The previous noteworthy one
>> `d0c45dd6d0e7c069cd9098f81f6775596efd5cc5` is about 3MiB in size.)
>> (Although this is excusable for the first code release.)
>>
>>
>>     But then again it is a young project, and maybe things are
>> different than what I'm describing here. (See Jon's final remark.)
>>
>>>> However it does ship with a bridge to other open source middleware
>>>> called Avis.
>>>> http://avis.sourceforge.net/client_library.html
>>>>
>>>> If we could get the ZeroMQ bridge into the distribution , I don't think
>>>> it could do any harm.
>>>>
>>>> I havent looked in detail at what is required, but as Mike replied to
>>>> me, in the absence of any
>>>> documentation, studying the Avis bridge is going to be the best option.
>>>>
>>>> Jon
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