On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 18:30, Miles Nordin <car...@ivy.net> wrote:
>  I love the way they use the numbers 3800 and 3080, so you are
>  constantly transposing them thus leaving google littered with all
>  this confusingly wrong information.
Think of the middle two digits as (number of external ports, number of
internal ports).  For example, I have a 3442E-R which has 4 internal
and 4 external ports, the 3800 has 8 external ports and 0 internal,
and so forth.  One place this breaks down is with cards like the 8888;
it has a total of 8 ports, any group of 4 of which can be mapped to
internal or external ports.

>   AOC-USAS-L4iR
>       identical to the above, but ``includes iButton''
>       which is an old type of smartcard-like device with
>       sometimes crypto and javacard support.
>       apparently some kind of license key to
>       unlock RAID5?  no L8iR exists though, only L4iR.
>       I have the L8i, and it does have an iButton socket
>       with no button in it.
I think the iButton is just used as an unlock code for the builtin
RAID 5 functionality.  Nothing the end user cares about, unless they
want RAID and have to spend the extra money.

>     * SR = Software RAID IT = Integrate. Target mode. IR mode is not 
> supported.
Integrated target mode lets you export some storage attached to the
host system (through another adapter, presumably) as a storage device.
 IR mode is almost certainly Internal RAID, which that card doesn't
have support for.

> also there seem to be two different kinds of quad-SATA connector on
> these SAS cards so there are two different kinds of octopus cable.
Yes---SFF-8484 and SFF-8087 are the key words.

> SATA disks will always show up when attached to a SAS HBA,
> because that's one of the requirements of the SAS specification.
I'm not sure what you mean by this.  SAS controllers can control SATA
disks, and interact with them.  They don't just "show up"; they're
first-class citizens.

Will
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