On Apr 24, 2010, at 5:27 AM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote:

>> From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss-
>> boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Edward Ned Harvey
>> 
>>> From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss-
>>> boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Edward Ned Harvey
>>> 
>>> Actually, I find this very surprising:
>>> Question posted:
>>> http://lopsa.org/pipermail/tech/2010-April/004356.html
>> 
>> As the thread unfolds, it appears, although netapp may sometimes have
>> some
>> problems with "mv" directories ... This is evidence that appears to be
>> weakening ... 
> 
> Nope.  That discussion seems to be concluded now.  And the netapp does not
> have the problem that was suspected.

I do not recall reaching that conclusion.  I think the definition of the problem
is what you continue to miss.

> The .snapshot directories do precisely what you would want them to do.
> Which is:  The .snapshot directory belonging to a parent contains a copy of
> the filesystem as it looked at the time of the snapshot.  But when you mv or
> rename a subdirectory, then the .snapshot subdir of the subdirectory
> correctly maps, to preserve the snapshots inside that directory.

Agree, but the path is lost.

> Make sense?

Yes.  The contents of the directory are there, but the full pathname does
not follow because you changed a name in the path.  Whether this is 
useful or not depends on whether you expect the path to be followed.

It seems, the NetApp snapshot is a directory-level snapshot rather than a
file system snapshot. I cannot see how to merge the two, so perhaps
adding such a feature to ZFS could not leverage the file system snapshot?
 -- richard


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