>>>>> "sw" == Saxon, Will <will.sa...@sage.com> writes:

    sw> 'clone' vs. a 'copy' would be very easy since we have
    sw> deduplication now

dedup doesn't replace the snapshot/clone feature for the
NFS-share-full-of-vmdk use case because there's no equivalent of 
'zfs rollback'


I'm tempted to say, ``vmware needs to remove their silly limit'' but
there are takes-three-hours-to-boot problems with thousands of Solaris
NFS exports so maybe their limit is not so silly after all.

What is the scenario, you have?  Is it something like 40 hosts with
live migration among them, and 40 guests on each host?  so you need
1600 filesystems mounted even though only 40 are actually in use?

'zfs set sharenfs=absorb <dataset>' would be my favorite answer, but
lots of people have asked for such a feature, and answer is always
``wait for mirror mounts'' (which BTW are actually just-works for me
on very-recent linux, even with plain 'mount host:/fs /fs', without
saying 'mount -t nfs4', in spite of my earlier rant complaining they
are not real).  Of course NFSv4 features are no help to vmware, but
hypothetically I guess mirror-mounting would work if vmware supported
it, so long as they were careful not to provoke the mounting of guests
not in use.  The ``implicit automounter'' on which the mirror mount
feature's based would avoid the boot delay of mounting 1600
filesystems.

and BTW I've not been able to get the Real Automounter in Linux to do
what this implicit one already can with subtrees.  Why is it so hard
to write a working automounter?

The other thing I've never understood is, if you 'zfs rollback' an
NFS-exported filesystem, what happens to all the NFS clients?  It
seems like this would cause much worse corruption than the worry when
people give fire-and-brimstone speeches about never disabling
zil-writing while using the NFS server.  but it seems to mostly work
anyway when I do this, so I'm probably confused about something.

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