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> From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org 
> [mailto:zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Miles Nordin
> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 2:42 PM
> To: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org
> Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] File cloning
> 
> >>>>> "sw" == Saxon, Will <will.sa...@sage.com> writes:
> 
>     sw> 'clone' vs. a 'copy' would be very easy since we have
>     sw> deduplication now
> 
> dedup doesn't replace the snapshot/clone feature for the
> NFS-share-full-of-vmdk use case because there's no equivalent of 
> 'zfs rollback'
> 
> 
> I'm tempted to say, ``vmware needs to remove their silly limit'' but
> there are takes-three-hours-to-boot problems with thousands of Solaris
> NFS exports so maybe their limit is not so silly after all.
> 
> What is the scenario, you have?  Is it something like 40 hosts with
> live migration among them, and 40 guests on each host?  so you need
> 1600 filesystems mounted even though only 40 are actually in use?
> 

Well in my case it's 8 hosts with live migration. We have ~650 VMs right now. 
They are not all running at once, but we tend to have 200-240 running at peak 
times of the day. We have to have all of them registered/available at any time. 
Our current solution is to have iSCSI LUNs holding many VMs at once, which is 
what I suspect most people would do to meet our requirements. I've been working 
with OpenSolaris to test delivery of VM storage over NFS, and I think it would 
also work well for us.

Our users are allowed to create/deploy/clone their own VMs, and a common 
complaint I have today is that provisioning takes a long time. This will always 
be the case if the users provision using the vendor-supplied tools, but I think 
if I was storing VMs and templates on ZFS and serving via NFS, a file-level 
clone would let me offer much faster provisioning to the user without requiring 
additional software like VMware Lab Manager or more expensive storage hardware.

-Will
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