-Marc-
> Just read over Elder Nelson's talk when it comes out in the
> Ensign. I myself have a difficult time seeing how people can
> still, with all due respect, "not get it" after hearing this talk.
And I have a difficult time seeing why people are so eager to twist an
apostle's words into supporting their political tastes, rather than try
to glean the truth and wisdom he was teaching. I suppose we both should
work on our ability to understand.
> He said "as a CHURCH we should renounce war" and emphasized that
> it would be the descendants of Ishmael and Jacob who would be the
> peacemakers in the region.
And therefore...?
> There can be nothing BUT a pacifist LDS.
>From The American Heritage Dictionary (1985):
1. The belief that disputes between nations should and can be
settled peacefully.
2a. Opposition to war or violence as a means of resolving
disputes.
b. Such opposition demonstrated by refusal to participate in
military action.
#1 does partially apply to Saints, of course, but it is so obvious that
even the most hawk-like Saint agrees that disputes *should* be settled
peacefully. Disputes involving aggression by enemies against you
obviously *cannot* be settled peacefully. Both parts of definition 2 are
anti-Mormon.
>From Merriam-Webster's online (www.m-w.com):
Main Entry: pac�i�fism
Pronunciation: 'pa-s&-"fi-z&m
Function: noun
Etymology: French pacifisme, from pacifique pacific
Date: 1902
1 : opposition to war or violence as a means of settling
disputes; specifically : refusal to bear arms on moral or
religious grounds
2 : an attitude or policy of nonresistance
Neither of these definitions describes the Church's position.
The definion at www.dictionary.com is word-for-word identical to that of
the American Heritage definition quoted above.
So you're wrong, Marc. Mormons are *not* pacifist, or at least they
should not be. Quite the contrary.
Stephen
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