In addition, the argument can backfire, because since the UN was formed, the
number of democracies has risen dramatically. At the time of the creation of the
UN, basically only the OECD countries were democracies. All of Latin America has
more or less become democratized since then, the British Empire broke up and the
old 3rd world colonies became independent (although not always democratic);
likewise the French Empire, more or less, and of course eastern Europe and
central Asia, which are varied in their levels of democracy, but are as a rule
generally higher than they were as part of the Soviet Union. The biggest
democracy in the world was created after the creation of the UN: India.  The
problem with this kind of argument is that it's associative, not causative,
regardless of which end of the telescope you're looking into, so to speak.

Steven Montgomery wrote:

> At 09:22 PM 10/23/2002, Marc wrote:
> >the UN Security Council). Nation states are dying as institutions, and
> >power is
> >flowing up to super-regions, and down to micro-regions, so the question
> >will come
> >to make even less and less sense as the new century unfolds, imo.
> >
> >--
> >Marc A. Schindler
> I agree, and believe you are right. Although we would probably disagree on
> the causes.
> --
> Steven Montgomery
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Marc A. Schindler
Spruce Grove, Alberta, Canada -- Gateway to the Boreal Parkland

“We do not think that there is an incompatibility between words and deeds; the
worst thing is to rush into action before the consequences have been properly
debated…To think of the future and wait was merely another way of saying one was
a coward; any idea of moderation was just an attempt to disguise one’s unmanly
character; ability to understand a question from all sides meant that one was
totally unfitted for action.” – Pericles about his fellow-Athenians, as quoted by
Thucydides in “The Peloponessian Wars”

Note: This communication represents the informal personal views of the author
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