You can fix these movies with ClearPlay.com.  I use it to watch The Patriot
and Black Hawk Down.  it makes them somewhere between G and PG.

Jon

----- Original Message -----
From: "Val" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 10:38 AM
Subject: Re:[ZION] BYU bars use of R-rated movies


> Bravo!  How can we be held as an example to the world, when we have such a
double standard.  It's hard enough for me to limit my kids (teen and above)
to PG-13 movies.  I swear, they have more justifications than Ole' Scratch
himself!
>
> val
>
> ---------- Jim Cobabe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Deseret News, Wednesday, December 18, 2002
>
>
>
> By Jeffrey P. Haney
> Deseret News staff writer
>
> PROVO - Brigham Young University has raised the red flag on the use of
> real-to-life Hollywood flicks to illustrate historical events.
>
>
> Professors at BYU this semester started following a policy that
> discourages showing R-rated movies in classes at the school owned by the
> LDS Church, whose members are counseled by top church leaders to avoid
> films with excessive gore, violence, profanity or nudity.
>
>
> The guideline - created to set boundaries for visual and literary
> materials used in class - says faculty should not "require students to
> view unedited R-rated movies, as a matter not simply of content but of
> obedience to prophetic counsel."
>
>
> The two-page statement urges professors to pick films, books, poems,
> paintings, music and sculptures that are "appropriate to BYU's mission
> and teach them in ways that invite the spirit of God into the
> classroom."
>
>
> "It is important to help students not only to understand the world but
> to stand firm against its evils - prepared to respond to its challenges
> with love, testimony, wisdom, eloquence and inspired artistry of their
> own," the policy says.
>
>
> BYU spokeswoman Carri P. Jenkins said, to her knowledge, faculty won't
> be disciplined if they don't adhere to the guidelines.
>
>
> The selection of visual and literary materials "will depend on the
> wisdom of the faculty," said Jenkins.
>
>
> But BYU's guideline tells departments to "counsel" with professors who
> "repeatedly choose inappropriate materials or who present materials in
> inappropriate ways."
>
>
> Students who object to material being used in class on moral grounds can
> ask to be given another assignment. If the professor declines, the
> student can take up the matter with the chairman of the academic
> department and college dean.
>
>
> "With this, there's a lot of invitation for discussion," said John S.
> Tanner, chairman of BYU's English department.
>
>
> Tanner, who helped cobble the guideline together using input from
> faculty meetings and previous policies used in the College of
> Humanities, said he hasn't received any feedback - for or against - on
> the guidelines.
>
>
> BYU bosses say the guideline will be reviewed in two years.
>
>
> Questions about classroom use of films that had been edited for content
> swirled after BYU's Varsity Theater stopped showing edited versions of
> R-rated movies in 1998.
>
>
> BYU's decision not to book edited and airline versions of R-rated movies
> came after an American Fork movie theater came under legal fire for
> snipping scenes from "Titanic."
>
>
> Controversy also enveloped nudity-sensitive BYU in 1997 when officials
> opted not to show four nude statues in an exhibit of works by French
> sculptor Francois-Auguste-Rene Rodin.
>
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