-Stephen- > However, as I pointed out, the very wording of the scriptural > verses I cited shows that God hates the person or people being > named<
[Note that I believe you were replying to an earlier, erroneously-sent version of my email. Possibly I expressed myself somewhat more clearly in the later version.] -Ron- > Really? Would God hate the man if the man repented of his sins? > I think not. Agreed. > Ditto the rest of your citations. Sorry, I'm missing your meaning. Ditto in what way? That God would cease to hate the repentant individual in each case? As I mentioned above, I agree with you on this point. > Glossifying the scriptures is very human. Even you indulge. Moi? Shirley ewe jest. (In fact, I think assigning such glosses is almost unavoidable in mortality, and I'm certainly as mortal as anyone. The best we can do is remain conscious of this failing and try to stem it where possible.) > I noticed you have not mentioned the oft-quoted advice: "love > the sinner, hate the sin." And good advice it is. But I was seeking to establish the specific point that the scriptures teach that God does indeed hate some individuals, and try to establish the larger point Elder Nelson addressed, that God's love is not unconditional. So the good advice you quote above didn't seem germane. > Such, I think, underscores the point I tried to make. Then perhaps we're trying to make different points. If your point is that God loves us struggling sinners despite our wretched state, I think you've succeeded -- though I doubt anyone here disagreed with you to begin with. Stephen ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// --^---------------------------------------------------------------- This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^----------------------------------------------------------------
