Well, Chet, other than your comments in the last paragraph, this is
something that we agree on strongly.  It seems that for us, Church is
stronger than politics!

Noj

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From: "Chet Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 2:25 PM
Subject: Re: [ZION] THE AMERICAN RELIGION by Harold Bloom


> My feelings about the Principle and its semi-repeal (it's only sort of
> repealed) is that if it DOES return before The Millenial, it will be
> because the Lord says to renew it.  If it doesn't return, it will because
> the Lord says not to.  It will have nothing to do with the church's
> political power or lack thereof.  If the Lord had wanted the Principle
> continued in the 19th century, all the soldiers and all the governments
> of the world couldn't have stopped it.  I haven't given it a great deal
> of thought beyond that.  Perhaps the 19th century saints learned what
> they needed to learn - they definitely learned to depend on each other,
> and not on the outside world (something which I think we do far too much
> of today).  There's surely more to be revealed.
>
> Orson Scott Card wrote that many men willingly went to jail to support
> the Principle then, and that many more would go to jail today to support
> the Principle not being brought back.  As a sick old man who can barely
> keep up with one wife, count me among the latter.  Only a much more
> righteous generation than our generation could possibly keep this
> principle without becoming corrupted -- as it seems several of the 19th
> century saints were so corrupted.
>
> *jeep!
>    --Chet
>  "Start by doing what's necessary, then what's possible, and suddenly you
> are doing the impossible."
>
> On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:00:51 -0900 "John W. Redelfs"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I have been reading THE AMERICAN RELIGION by Harold Bloom and I ran
> > across
> > an interesting statement on page 123:
> >
> > "And who can believe that the Mormons ever would have turned away
> > from the
> > practice of Celestial Marriage, if it were not for federal pressure?
> >  No
> > one, least of all in Salt Lake City, will be much inclined to accept
> > a
> > religious critic's foretellings, but I cheerfully do prophesy that
> > some
> > day, not too far on in the twenty-first century, the Mormons will
> > have
> > enough political and financial power to sanction polygamy again.
> > Without
> > it, in some form or other, the complete vision of Joseph Smith never
> > can be
> > fulfilled."
> >
> > Harold Bloom writes this as an outsider.  He is an unbelieving Jew,
> > an
> > "American gnostic."  I find his statement interesting because I
> > myself have
> > come to the same conclusion for a number of reasons.  What do you
> > think?
> >
> >
> > John W. Redelfs                       [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > ===========================================
> > "There is no place in this work for those who believe only
> > in the gospel of doom and gloom.  The gospel is good
> > news.  It is a message of triumph." --Gordon B. Hinckley
>
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