At 09:44 AM 11/13/2003 -0500, you wrote:
Interesting speculation and observations.
I have long believed that Book of Moses provides the most comprehensive and broad scriptural presentation we have as to how God went about creating the worlds. It provides a account that is quite instructive generally. Moreover, it seems to suggest that when we know exactly how He did it, His processes will be grounded in pure science not magic.
> -----Original Message----- > From: Gerald Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 7:41 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [ZION] The Descent of Man > > > > John, > Now you are just going to have to accept the fact that some > things have not been revealed yet. We can only speculate on the > descent of man, whether there was an evolution involved or not. > My speculation is that the scriptures were written on a > personal/lineage history level. In the current FARMS magazine, > discussing DNA and the BoM, Sorensen explains what > personal/lineage histories of small groups are. > As far as they are concerned, the universe revolves around them, > and they view events in terms they understand. Amazingly, we do > the same today. 9/11 or Pearl Harbor only have value inasmuch as > we place value there personally. When our personal worlds are > falling apart, it seems the whole world is coming unglued. And > when we are doing great, we often forget the pains that still > occur throughout the rest of the world. > Given archaeology's estimate that there were only 1-200 million > people alive in Abraham's day throughout the world, we can > understand how unpopulated many places would be, especially > further back in Adam's day. We are possibly talking of just a few > million people, according to archaeology. It would be very easy > to believe him to be the only person upon the earth. > Or, it is very possible that the Lord allowed Adam to be first > man, and those before him were not counted as in the population > of mankind. We worry about thousands and millions of years, when > God works in multi-billion years and perhaps much longer periods > of mortal time. Was God the Father around prior to the creation > of this universe 15 billion years ago? Perhaps. Does it matter? > Not really. Did he create this earth 4 billion or 6 thousand > years ago? Doesn't matter, either way. He's free to do it any way > he likes. Is the Bible a perfect history? Possibly, but not > necessarily so. It is highly likely that scribes down the road > from Moses could have enhanced some of the story. Why else would > there be two creation stories in the Bible? Yes, I know some > claim one to be a spiritual creation and the other a physical - > but if so, which is which? If the second is the physical > creation, then there's no mention of creating Day and Night, > earth and water, etc. We just have a general creation, and then > man shows up in the Garden. > As for the creation stories in the Book of Moses and the > endowment, we still don't know whether we are learning about the > spiritual creation or the physical one. And there is Book of J > evidence of a third-type of creation story within the Bible that > falls in line with ancient Babylonian/Sumerian Creation stories > (including God having to fight and destroy Leviathan). So, which > one do we fully rely upon? > Traditionally, we take Genesis 1, and follow it. But it isn't > necessarily that easy once we look deeper into the scriptures. > > Do i believe Adam was a historical person? Absolutely! I just > don't know if he was physically the father of all humans, or > symbolically the father of all humans. After all, did God create > him out of the dust of the earth as the scriptures tell us, or > was he transplanted here from another world, as suggested by > Brigham Young? More speculation! > Gary > > > K'aya K'ama > Gerald Smith > [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/rameumptom/ > Freedom Forever > > ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > //////////// > /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// > /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// > ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > /////////// >
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