Actually, I erred. Moses is good, Abraham is better. 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stacy Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 10:27 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [ZION] The Descent of Man
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> 
> I guess I often thought about the differences between the account of the 
> creation in the Book of Moses and the Book of Abraham.  I think 
> the one in 
> Abraham is far more detailed.
> 
> Stacy.
> 
> At 09:44 AM 11/13/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> 
> >Gary:
> >
> >Interesting speculation and observations.
> >
> >I have long believed that Book of Moses provides the most 
> comprehensive and
> >broad scriptural presentation we have as to how God went about 
> creating the
> >worlds. It provides a account that is quite instructive 
> generally. Moreover,
> >it seems to suggest that when we know exactly how He did it, His 
> processes
> >will be grounded in pure science not magic.
> >
> >RBS
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Gerald Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 7:41 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: [ZION] The Descent of Man
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > John,
> > > Now you are just going to have to accept the fact that some
> > > things have not been revealed yet.  We can only speculate on the
> > > descent of man, whether there was an evolution involved or not.
> > > My speculation is that the scriptures were written on a
> > > personal/lineage history level. In the current FARMS magazine,
> > > discussing DNA and the BoM, Sorensen explains what
> > > personal/lineage histories of small groups are.
> > > As far as they are concerned, the universe revolves around them,
> > > and they view events in terms they understand. Amazingly, we do
> > > the same today. 9/11 or Pearl Harbor only have value inasmuch as
> > > we place value there personally.  When our personal worlds are
> > > falling apart, it seems the whole world is coming unglued. And
> > > when we are doing great, we often forget the pains that still
> > > occur throughout the rest of the world.
> > > Given archaeology's estimate that there were only 1-200 million
> > > people alive in Abraham's day throughout the world, we can
> > > understand how unpopulated many places would be, especially
> > > further back in Adam's day. We are possibly talking of just a few
> > > million people, according to archaeology. It would be very easy
> > > to believe him to be the only person upon the earth.
> > > Or, it is very possible that the Lord allowed Adam to be first
> > > man, and those before him were not counted as in the population
> > > of mankind. We worry about thousands and millions of years, when
> > > God works in multi-billion years and perhaps much longer periods
> > > of mortal time. Was God the Father around prior to the creation
> > > of this universe 15 billion years ago? Perhaps. Does it matter?
> > > Not really. Did he create this earth 4 billion or 6 thousand
> > > years ago? Doesn't matter, either way. He's free to do it any way
> > > he likes. Is the Bible a perfect history? Possibly, but not
> > > necessarily so. It is highly likely that scribes down the road
> > > from Moses could have enhanced some of the story. Why else would
> > > there be two creation stories in the Bible? Yes, I know some
> > > claim one to be a spiritual creation and the other a physical -
> > > but if so, which is which? If the second is the physical
> > > creation, then there's no mention of creating Day and Night,
> > > earth and water, etc. We just have a general creation, and then
> > > man shows up in the Garden.
> > > As for the creation stories in the Book of Moses and the
> > > endowment, we still don't know whether we are learning about the
> > > spiritual creation or the physical one. And there is Book of J
> > > evidence of a third-type of creation story within the Bible that
> > > falls in line with ancient Babylonian/Sumerian Creation stories
> > > (including God having to fight and destroy Leviathan).  So, which
> > > one do we fully rely upon?
> > > Traditionally, we take Genesis 1, and follow it. But it isn't
> > > necessarily that easy once we look deeper into the scriptures.
> > >
> > > Do i believe Adam was a historical person? Absolutely! I just
> > > don't know if he was physically the father of all humans, or
> > > symbolically the father of all humans. After all, did God create
> > > him out of the dust of the earth as the scriptures tell us, or
> > > was he transplanted here from another world, as suggested by
> > > Brigham Young?  More speculation!
> > > Gary
> > >
> > >
> > > K'aya K'ama
> > > Gerald Smith
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://www.geocities.com/rameumptom/
> > > Freedom Forever
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