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>From: Jim Cobabe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 11:38 PM
>Subject: [ZION] A few more representative quotes...

--Quoting President Hinckley --
>There are those who would have us believe in the
>validity of what they
>choose to call same-sex marriage. Our hearts reach out
>to those who
>struggle with feelings of affinity for the same gender.
>We remember you
>before the Lord, we sympathize with you, we regard you
>as our brothers
>and our sisters. However, we cannot condone immoral
>practices on your
>part any more than we can condone immoral practices on
>the part of
>With so much of sophistry that is passed off as truth,
>with so much of
>deception concerning standards and values, with so much
>of allurement
>and enticement to take on the slow stain of the world,
>we have felt to
>warn and forewarn. In furtherance of this we of the
>First Presidency and
>the Council of the Twelve Apostles now issue a
>proclamation to the
>Church and to the world as a declaration and
>reaffirmation of standards,
>doctrines, and practices relative to the family which
>the prophets,
>seers, and revelators of this church have repeatedly
>stated throughout
>its history…
>“We warn that individuals who violate covenants of
>chastity, who abuse
>spouse or offspring, or who fail to fulfill family
>responsibilities will
>one day stand accountable before God. Further, we warn that the
>disintegration of the family will bring upon
>individuals, communities,
>and nations the calamities foretold by ancient and
>modern prophets…
>“We call upon responsible citizens and officers of
>government everywhere
>to promote those measures designed to maintain and
>strengthen the family
>as the fundamental unit of society.”  (Gordon B.
>Hinckley, “Stand Strong
>against the Wiles of the World,” Ensign, Nov. 1995)<

Jim, in another post aimed at me you wrote: "I can seldom discern
from your rhetoric exactly where you stand with regard to
anything "divinely inspired.  Whether you are "out of step" is
up to you, but when you seem to be advocating things that are
clearly wrong, I feel prompted to either quit reading your
comments, or respond when they seem to need correction."

Thank you for posting several quotes from leaders of the church,
all of which are framed by President Hinckley's proclamation
above, which I fully and heartily endorse.

I am one of many, apparently, who believes the proposed
Constitutional Amendment will not serve the objectives delineated
in President Hinckley's proclamation.

Frankly, I don't think the amendment will make it out of
Congress.  If it does, it is highly unlikely that it will be
approved by three-fourths of the state legislatures. That's why I
oppose going down this road: it will be costly (in dollars and
goodwill),  very divisive, and in the end it will all be for

That's why I believe it makes more sense to: 1) get the
government out of the business of determining what is and what is
not called a marriage; 2) to carefully think through and plan for
how these "alternative lifestyle" matters and "legal unions" will
be explained/taught to our children; 3) to ascertain how they
will affect the free expression of religious beliefs in public
settings; 4) and to teach how one should properly, consistently,
and even-handedly "despise" sins but "love" sinners.

If President Hinckley says that supporting the constitutional
amendment is the "only" way to go on this matter, I will follow
his lead.  Otherwise, I am choosing to support President
Hinckley's  Proclamation on The Family by following the steps
outlined in the paragraph above.

Kind Regards,

Ron Scott

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