Flavio, Ted, Henry, Scott, this would perfectly well for my use case provided:
SINGLE ENSEMBLE: GROUP A : ZK Servers w/ read/write AND Leader Elections GROUP B : ZK Servers w/ read/write W/O Leader Elections So, we can craft this via Observers and Hiererarchial Quorum groups? Great. Problem solved. When will this be production ready? :o) -------------------- Scott brought up a multi-feature that is very interesting for me. Namely: 1. Offline ZK servers that sync & merge on reconnect The offline servers seems conceptually simple, it's kind of like a messaging system. However, the merge and resolve step when two servers reconnect might be challenging. Cool idea though. 2. Partial memory graph subscriptions The second idea is partial memory graph subscriptions. This would enable virtual ensembles to interract on the same physical ensemble. For my use case, this would prevent unnecessary cross talk between nodes on a WAN, allowing me to define the subsets of the memory graph that need to be replicated, and to whom. This would be a huge scalability win for WAN use cases. -Todd -----Original Message----- From: Scott Carey [mailto:sc...@richrelevance.com] Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 11:00 AM To: zookeeper-user@hadoop.apache.org Subject: Re: Leader Elections Observers would be awesome especially with a couple enhancements / extensions: An option for the observers to enter a special state if the WAN link goes down to the "master" cluster. A read-only option would be great. However, allowing certain types of writes to continue on a limited basis would be highly valuable as well. An observer could "own" a special node and its subnodes. Only these subnodes would be writable by the observer when there was a session break to the master cluster, and the master cluster would take all the changes when the link is reestablished. Essentially, it is a portion of the hierarchy that is writable only by a specitfic observer, and read-only for others. The purpose of this would be for when the WAN link goes down to the "master" ZKs for certain types of use cases - status updates or other changes local to the observer that are strictly read-only outside the Observer's 'realm'. On 7/19/09 12:16 PM, "Henry Robinson" <he...@cloudera.com> wrote: You can. See ZOOKEEPER-368 - at first glance it sounds like observers will be a good fit for your requirements. Do bear in mind that the patch on the jira is only for discussion purposes; I would not consider it currently fit for production use. I hope to put up a much better patch this week. Henry On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 7:38 PM, Ted Dunning <ted.dunn...@gmail.com> wrote: > Can you submit updates via an observer? > > On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 6:38 AM, Flavio Junqueira <f...@yahoo-inc.com> > wrote: > > > 2- Observers: you could have one computing center containing an ensemble > > and observers around the edge just learning committed values. > > > > > -- > Ted Dunning, CTO > DeepDyve >