Am 21.11.2008 um 07:31 schrieb Andreas Jung:

> hmm....so why is CMF here nearly as bad a Plone. In Plone we know  
> that everything is indexed various times (also in CMF I think) but  
> Plone has much more indexes and metadata compared to CMF. A request  
> in Plone goes through much more layers than in CMF....I am currently  
> clueless interpreting the results. My current interpretation is: a  
> custom CMF-based implementation of a CMS will be comparable slow/ 
> fast as an out-of-the-box solution?!

Hi Andreas,

a very interesting situation. I've never thought of object creation  
when choosing "pure" CMF over Plone as this is largely a ZODB issue.  
As Roché points out it is less likely to be the transactions and more  
likely to be the cataloguing and any other event subscribers that are  
limiting factors here. Speed comparions between CMF and Plone only  
make sense for serving content where I find pure CMF to be at least 10  
times as fast as Plone - I think the speed difference is largely down  
to the sheer size of Archetypes and the overloading of getattr().

For tests you might want to see if you can defer indexing and I'd  
suggest explicit transaction management. Any chance you can run the  
tests outside the ZMI?

I currently have a migration from Plone to CMF and this is a bit of  
the code I use.

import transaction
from zope.component import createObject
from zope.app.container.interfaces import INameChooser

from zope.event import notify
from zope.lifecycleevent import ObjectCreatedEvent

for i in range(randint(1,500)):
        d = createObject("cmf.document", "")
        d.id = INameChooser(results_folder).chooseName(d.getId(), d) # this  
will be a bottleneck
        results_folder._setObject(d.id, d)

for obj in results_folder.contentValues(filter='Document'):

You can run this to see the time it takes to create the invidiual  
objects. You  could run the transaction within the loop to see what  
effect that has and you can add notification of the object creation to  
the loop or outside of it to see how the event subscribers (usually  
the portal catalogue) affects things.

Charlie Clark
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