I have to say I agree, up to a point.

I think that monkeypatching goes right to the very heart of the language -
Python was written not just to allow it, but it's opperation almost
encorages it (Sort of). HOWEVER, I am somewhat against a monkeypatch being
made part of the core distribution (No disrespect to the authors of such
products - me included), these should be optional downloads, up to the point
that the code is rolled into the core codebase.

The call profiler seems to be a very popular feature, and it seems to
provide very useful information. It's not rock solid yet (I am sure I even
remember it's author saying this a day or so ago), but it will be, and that
is the point that it should be considered for rolling in - Possibly to
replace the existing debug/profiling stuff, that seems to be somewhat
overshadowed by it...

Just my 2c (Or 0.02 E, take you pick)

Adrian...

--
The difficulty of tactical maneuvering consists in turning the devious into
the direct, and misfortune into gain.
- Sun Tzu


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From: "Chris Withers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "seb bacon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Richard Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Casey Duncan"
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Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 12:54 PM
Subject: [Zope-dev] Re: MonkeyPatching in the Core (was: Zope 2.6 planning)


> seb bacon wrote:
> >
> >  Pros - a tiny performance gain
> >  Cons - unpredictable interaction with future products;
>
> I'd rephrase that as a pro:
>
> Ability to work with products of the future, without the need to
understand their inner
> workings...
>
> > not a well-known
> > method of distributing products;
>
> Urm... that I gotta disagree with...
> Tehre are now many such products for Zope...
>
> > not easily discoverable
>
> What do you mean by discoverable?
>
> > But perhaps my 'cons' are misplaced?  Mostly, I'm uneasy that someone
> > looking at ZPublisher code would have no way of knowing that
> > CallProfiler hooks into it if it were monkeypatched.
>
> Yeah they would, 'cos CallProfiler will be well documented beforeit hits a
release and
> will onyl come into play if explicity enabled. And if you explicitly
enable it, you should
> read the documentation first...
>
> cheers,
>
> Chris
>
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