-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 First, this cross-post was inappropriate: it is a matter for general discussion among Zope committers, which is not a matter for the Foundation to act on unless / until some consensus for changing the status quo emerges. This will be my last post to the 'foundat...@zope.org' list on this thres.
Chris Withers wrote: > I got bitten by the current zope subversion setup at PyCon so thought > I'd mail the appropriate groups about it. If this has been covered > elsewhere and I've missed anything, please just point me in the right > direction... > > So, svn.zope.org causes me pain at the moment: > > - it uses the bizarre svn or svn+ssh protocols, which I find annoying > (ports blocked on routers, can't check with a browser, etc) /me shrugs. SSH is an essential part of my day-to-day work: not being able to use it means I'm effectively offline. > - the web front end is ancient and not as good as other options (Trac, > WebSVN) Fixing the web front-end should be a matter for the zope-web list. > - the process for adding keys is baroque and managed by one person who > is too busy to help with it (Jim) *This* part needs some fixing, largely because Jim's role their is an artifact of ZC's role, now lapsed, as custodians. At a minimum, there should be a group (I suggest the zope-web regulars) who can take over the maintenance of that application. A *different* group should have the role of collecting / approving the committer access requests. > So I thought I'd ask what the plans are now that the foundation owns all > the Zope IP (has this happened yet or am I imagining things?) The foundation now owns the copyrights. Trademarks are still in other hands. > Are we sticking with svn? Are we sticking with the current hosting? Are > we sticking with the current key-based login and upload mechanism? > > For me, the ideal would be simply https for everything and using http > basic auth for access with more people having access to update the > passwd file and maybe Trac or WebSVN for a nice web interface. > > I volunteer to help with any/all of the above. > > The other option would be to follow Python and move to Mercurial, but > that has the same problems for me as with Bzr (no decent gui tools, less > mature, etc) although it's a toolset I'll have to learn at some point > anyway... +1 to sticking with svn+ssh for write requests. - -1 to non-pubkey-based authentication for write requests. +1 to making svn-over-http read-only checkouts work. - -1 to switching away from svn, at least until the Python developers have some experience with the transition (I would wait at least 6 months). Tres. - -- =================================================================== Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 tsea...@palladion.com Palladion Software "Excellence by Design" http://palladion.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJ1SXm+gerLs4ltQ4RAt74AJ93TlHe0VZ4vbAI706kDQzT8IvrkACfdzNP HrZb19KJDG+En2Zx+nRjz5c= =kLgg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )