On Thu, 2006-03-02 at 09:52 +0100, Paul Everitt wrote: > Geoff is offering to help on the existing site. That's an urgent need, > from all the (ahem) constructive responses I've seen to his note. The > more he helps on the current site, the less pressure you'll have on the > "start-from-scratch" plan. I understand - but I don't think 'starting' from scratch is as duanting as it appears, because the scope is VERY VERY limited. I am excited about making this happen. I'd like Geoff to assist making this happen. I think it's close, and whatever effort is made towards the existing site could literally launch a new one.
Andrew > > I've seen the point made in this thread about choosing Plone and no > Plone people helping. Here's the reason I went from very active to > inactive: > > http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-web/2003-July/002764.html > > I never got a response to that note. Actually, I did get a one word > private response from the ZC CFO: "Understood". Perhaps things changed, > but like others, I got the message about the value of my contributions. > > Plone pre-1.0 might be part of the problem. But the bigger problem is > the red tape and attitude. Plone.org, OTOH, has over a hundred > how-to's, over 20 long tutorials, good doc organization, active system > administration, great performance, and around 4 active > *documentation-only* reviewers. Even atop that "awful" Plone software. :^) > > zope.org is dead. plone.org is quite alive. What's the difference in > these two? > > For what ever reason, zope.org gives off a distinct "you're not wanted > here" vibe, especially if you're a Plone person. > > --Paul > > > Andrew Sawyers wrote: > > Geoff, > > Daily several of us (Michael, Martijn F, Phillip V, and a couple others) > > utilize #zope-web to try and further work that has been going on for > > awhile to get a suitable zope.org rolled out and upgraded that the > > community can be proud of. There are people working on docs, marketing > > data, newsletters, layout/design upgrades and more. Please participate > > in the existing drive, not start a new one. :) > > > > I'd love to see ya drop by. There's no secret that the current site > > needs fixing; lets pool the collective interest and get it finished > > up..... > > > > Andrew Sawyers > > > > > > On Fri, 2006-02-24 at 12:09 -0500, Geoff Davis wrote: > >> Hi all-- > >> > >> I think the idea of a Zope 3 web site rewrite is a great one. However, > >> since Zope 2 is going to continue to be around for awhile, I am wondering > >> if we might be able to shore up the Zope 2 resources in a reasonable way? > >> > >> Migrating all the community content sounds like a herculean task; I'm > >> talking about doing something with rather narrower scope. Here is what I > >> propose: > >> > >> * Create a new zope.org (or zope2.org) for Zope 2 that is focused on 2 > >> things: > >> 1) Distribution of Zope 2 and related add-ons > >> 2) Documentation > >> > >> * Maintain all the old community content in the current instance and bind > >> the two together using URL rewriting. > >> > >> The Plone community has developed a couple of products for distributing > >> software (PloneSoftwareCenter) and for maintaining documentation > >> (PloneHelpCenter). You can see these in action at > >> http://plone.org/products and http://plone.org/documentation , > >> respectively. > >> > >> I know that zope.org gets a lot of traffic; we also have a product for > >> making Plone play nicely with Squid. > >> > >> I think that people in the Plone community would be willing to help out > >> with getting such a site set up. The bigger task would be moving > >> community content to the new setup. > >> > >> Is there any interest? > >> > >> Geoff > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Zope-web maillist - Zopefirstname.lastname@example.org > >> http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Zope-web maillist - Zopeemail@example.com > > http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web > > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope-web maillist - Zopefirstname.lastname@example.org > http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web _______________________________________________ Zope-web maillist - Zopeemail@example.com http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web