On Thu February 2 2006 16:05, Stephan Richter wrote: > Yeah, but honestly I don't care. If people choose a technology on name > recognition and not on technical merit, then it is their bad. However, I > question the RoR hype. I wonder whether big companies seriously > considering it; it has absolutely no track record. Zope 2 (and even 3) on > the other hand is deployed on many huge sites and the risk of deploying it > is low. Even deploying Zope 3 is a smaller risk than RoR.
It's hard to choose Zope 3 based on technical merit when it's not well-known that it's so different than the Zope 2 merits they've already decided they didn't like. I've been using Zope since 1998, mostly because I loved Python programming and it just fit me. I was excited to see Zope 3 in the works a few years ago, but frankly I didn't understand half of what the developers were talking about when they discussed what it was going to look like; it was over my head (and still is a bit), but I could tell it would be a different beast. I figured I'd wait and see and happily continue using Zope 2. Today, I see the mess that a Zope 2 site can turn in to, so I started looking at Zope 3 again. The release announcements say it's ready for production use, but the website has no promotion of it whatsoever. You have to dig several levels deep to see any mention that it's not just a new version of Zope. The downloads page makes it look like nothing more than an upgrade and the one Zope 3 link under Developers says the wiki is for Zope 3 development itself, not for those that want to use it. I do have Richter's book (thank you, Stephan) and Philipp's book is on its way, but I'm having trouble finding any material online that isn't a hodge-podge of years old development notes. I know Zope 3 is young, but this surprises me. I would think ZC would at least want to mention their new production-ready killer app on the front page, and perhaps include *something* in the "What is Zope?" page. But there's not one word about Zope 3's new technical merits. There must be a good reason for this. I know they didn't spend all this time building a great open source product for members-only. The only thing I can think of is that perhaps they don't want to promote it while Zope 2 product compatibility isn't there yet. With so many nice Zope 2 products around, I can see new users getting frustrated that none of them work in Zope 3. Once some major Zope 2 products work in Zope 3, maybe things will change. At any rate, I look forward to learning about Zope 3. I hope it's as fun (or more) to work with as Zope 2 has been. -- Ron _______________________________________________ Zope3-users mailing list Zope3email@example.com http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users