Ron Bickers wrote:
Today, I see the mess that a Zope 2 site can turn in to, so I started looking
at Zope 3 again. The release announcements say it's ready for production
use, but the website has no promotion of it whatsoever. You have to dig
several levels deep to see any mention that it's not just a new version of
Zope. The downloads page makes it look like nothing more than an upgrade
and the one Zope 3 link under Developers says the wiki is for Zope 3
development itself, not for those that want to use it. I do have Richter's
book (thank you, Stephan) and Philipp's book is on its way, but I'm having
trouble finding any material online that isn't a hodge-podge of years old
To continue your rant, I think most people expect production-ready
software to have a large support network around it. There's certainly
commercial support for Zope 3, but that doesn't count, because the claim
that Zope 3 is production-ready is made in reference to only the open
source software, not commercial add-ons. So I think it's misleading to
call Zope 3 production-ready until we organize better.
I can't help but think the first step to making Zope 3 truly
production-ready is to put together a pretty web site about Zope 3. It
shouldn't make many references to Zope 2. It should have a "Zero to
Zope 3 in Ten Minutes" article. It should have a link to online API
docs. Its primary focus should be on attracting new people.
Whoever designs such a site needs good design skills and thick skin. It
can't be designed by committee, but the designer should solicit
feedback. (Now, I don't have a lot of design skill, but I have noticed
that every revision of zope.org has chosen most of its colors from a
palette of black, white, and blue. My web log suffers the same malady!
I've also noticed recently that most attractive web sites choose two
fairly saturated colors and balance and vary them.)
There must be a good reason for this. I know they didn't spend all this time
building a great open source product for members-only. The only thing I can
think of is that perhaps they don't want to promote it while Zope 2 product
compatibility isn't there yet. With so many nice Zope 2 products around, I
can see new users getting frustrated that none of them work in Zope 3. Once
some major Zope 2 products work in Zope 3, maybe things will change.
It's probably in ZC's best interest to wait for Zope 2 compatibility
before promoting Zope 3 heavily, since ZC has a lot of Zope 2 customers.
But it's in the Zope community's best interest to promote Zope 3 right
now, while the competition is heating up.
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