I've enjoyed the contributions on this thread. Some time back I mentioned 
that what hooked me on Zope was the Relational Database access "out of the 

I liked the way Zope generated a simple database query form and result - so 
I agree strongly that Zope could hook more people if it did even more 
useful things without coding. I even suggested others submitted their 
favourite ideas for a "Wizards of Zope" beauty contest.

I've been supplying solutions to clients for xx years now and my philosophy 
has always been to code at the highest possible level. Don't code in 
machine code if you can code in assembler, don't code in assembler if you 
can code in C,  don't code in C if you can code in a 4GL, don't code at all 
if you don't have to :-)

Zope offers the potential to be the perfect development environment with 
tons of really good solutions off the shelf - these can be customised if 
they have to, we can drop down to Python if we really need to. Perfect.

Unfortunately its been difficult to get discussions like this going on 
zope.org as its mainly devoted to coding problems, while zope-dev is to do 
with deep and complex zopezen.

I know usability is high on Paul Everitts list, 'cos he said so in Paris.

Perhaps we need zope-usability.org as a forum for non-technical discussions 
about Zope development ?

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