I'm dutch and have had a decent education and therefore do understand german as well. I am not sure what this is all about, but 'ob man Dich nicht von den Listen werfen sollte' sounds to me like "whether you should not be removed from the list". I cannot take that as anything else than a threat, may be not from you personally, but nevertheless a threat.
I am a part of the silent majority that uses Zope 2 and happily so. I am willing to keep up with new developments, but have not much time to learn new tricks of the trade. Discussions like this one make me fear that in the near future I will have to investigate other solutions. cb -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: zope-boun...@zope.org [mailto:zope-boun...@zope.org] Namens Andreas Jung Verzonden: maandag 13 april 2009 9:31 Aan: Dieter Maurer CC: Chris Withers; email@example.com Onderwerp: Re: [Zope] [Zope-dev] Zope 4.0, maybe not such a bad idea... -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 13.04.2009 6:46 Uhr, Dieter Maurer wrote: > Andreas Jung wrote at 2009-4-12 09:52 +0200: >> ... >> @Dieter: participate or be silent. You are member of the Zope >> community for years, you are member of the Zope Foundation as a committer member. >> Such statements are at most laughable based on your record of your >> active contributions to the Zope community and the active >> participation within the Zope community. > > In a private email, Andreas has threadened to exclude me from the Zope > mailing lists -- apparently to get me silent forcefully when I do not > obey. Learn to read and translate. The German text says that some committer are no longer interested in your ongoing ranting. In fact I tried to explain to other committers to take you as you are for a very long time. But the patience is over at some point. And the message does not contain any thread from MY side about throwing you from the list. I only said that I would no longer veto against it. > For me, this looks like dictatorship tendencies start to grow and are > soon embracing censorship. Re-read what Jens wrote some time ago about "Only those who participate". Andreas -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkni6kYACgkQCJIWIbr9KYyoEgCg6NT5gtLgorxpx54SqadM+/E5 NUIAoLUdQbiQQq5wxOplV5OE2fCeaPad =B1yM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.54/2056 - Release Date: 04/13/09 05:51:00 _______________________________________________ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )