On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 8:44 AM, Ethan Grammatikidis<eeke...@fastmail.fm> wrote: > On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 17:32:09 +0200 > <c...@gli.cas.cz> wrote: > >> >> >> > I also take issue with the statement "Acme is a text editor," that never >> > sounds right, no more than describing Emacs as >> > a text editor. It's natural to use Acme as a text editor and it provides >> > many more text-editing facilities than Rio >> > does, but it is also natural to use it as a file manager, shell window >> > provider, email client, etc, etc. >> > It provides more than Rio and it does it all with tiling windows and >> > without menus, but that's just style. >> >> I always thought of using Acme as 'The' UI for Plan 9, much in the Oberon >> way. I'm not a techie, but I use Plan 9 since 2000, or so, as my main OS. I >> would *way* love having graphics in Acme, asi it IS a great UI, IMHO. > > As-is it's actually not a great UI for me, but perhaps with some small > changes it could be. I'm still thinking those changes over. >
Acme is the worst editor/environment, except for all the others. Sometimes it seems cluttered and confusing, but then I realize that's because it has more files open than I would even try on emacs, merely because switching around between emacs buffers is slower and less convenient. Speaking of which, I recently discovered that emacs (on X, at least) is now capable of running a terminal which can in turn run vi or console-mode emacs. OT but madness. Now I want to run sam in acme. Eric and myself, and I think maybe Ron, are using acme and acme-sac to interact with a BlueGene/P system. I write code in acme, then use a guide file to run the various scripts I need to connect to the frontend node and launch jobs, then use win to telnet into the individual nodes and run tests. The real advantage comes from the "Local" command and the way windows are managed/output is handled. I'd really like to see acme get support for graphical programs, although right now I'm content enough as things stand. John -- "I've tried programming Ruby on Rails, following TechCrunch in my RSS reader, and drinking absinthe. It doesn't work. I'm going back to C, Hunter S. Thompson, and cheap whiskey." -- Ted Dziuba
