Aisha Tammy <openbsd.advoc...@aisha.cc> wrote: > On 5/14/20 7:24 PM, Theo de Raadt wrote: > > Kyle Willett <kyle.d.will...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> I think OpenBSD advocacy could do more too. I read on an open source > >> news site that Lenovo is going to start offering a Fedora Linux option > >> on their Thinkpad lineup and already certifies some for Red Hat > >> Enterprise Linux. I think it would be great if we could get some > > > > Who is "we"? > > > >> hardware manufacturer to certify OpenBSD on a device and offer it > >> pre-installed as an OS choice. I think that would be a good thing for > >> the project. Maybe an AMD64 x86_64 laptop is too much at first and > >> maybe we should start with one of the arm or mips laptops supported > > > > Who is "we"? > > > >> well by OpenBSD. I don't know just a dream I have. > > > > Why go around telling people your dreams? Why not do all this yourself? > > You don't need a mailing list for it. Is it your dream that others in the > > group "we" will do what you dream? > > > > What you are doing here is advocating that other people do that which > > you don't and won't do yourself. To be honest, it comes off small minded. > > > > There are many possible assumptions of what they could have meant, I don't > think there is a need to be overly harsh to their attitude. For all I know > they might be an enthusiastic college student who wants to help.
I suspect you are an enthusiastic person who wants to send a mail to us, telling us what to do. But that which you dream of? You won't left a leg to do any of it. > Voicing your ideas and finding like minded people is a good motivator for > doing a project. No, doing work is what makes projects. You are just typing words. > @Kyle, I do appreciate your enthusiasm. > That said, I do agree that going straight to hardware is far from what is > possible as a short term goal. > > I think it is better by starting to do small things, I agree it is better to DO THINGS. But you are writing words. > I've already asked the newsletters to hopefully include the recent news about > wireguard patches (even though it is not confirmed to be included yet, please > don't kill me over this) and hopefully I get a positive response :) . The world is so full of writing about writing about doing stuff, but short of people who actually do stuff. You are one of those writers, it appears... > I know this is not a lot but I am hoping slowly things can turn > up for the better. > > As always, am open any other ideas you might have. > > (I tried to be terse, I think I failed) What a waste of time.
