Of course, a deterministic system could be designed to behave crazily. But WHY?
No deterministic machine has ever been designed like that.
What on earth would be your reason for deterministically designing such
behaviour?
And there is the small matter that there is NO EVIDENCE at all for a
deterministic pattern to these crazy patterns of human behaviour, that are
actually evident in every single human activity (including how we answer posts
on this forum). And scientists have actually TRIED to find patterns. Hence no
scientific laws of behaviour.
If you really think that point - and insisting on evidence here - is stupid, as
you're implying, by all means dnn't talk to me.
----- Original Message -----
From: Benjamin Goertzel
To: agi@v2.listbox.com
Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 10:46 PM
Subject: Re: [agi] The Advantages of a Conscious Mind
If there's any confusion, think about many women and dieting. They will be
confronted by much the same decisions about whether to eat or not to eat on
possibly thousands of occasions throughout their lives. And over and over,
throughout their entire lives, they will - freely - decide now this way,
now that. Yo-yoing on and off their diets. Your system, as I understand it,
would never do that - would never act in such crazy, mixed up, contradictory
ways. Humans do, because they are, truly, free - and, I contend,
non-deterministically programmed - and, repeat, this is, paradoxically, good
design..
Mike, I don't want to be insulting, but you seem incredibly confused about
some
basic concepts.
Either that or you are redefining basic words in such odd ways that
communicating
with you usefully is next to impossible!
There is no reason at all why a deterministic system couldn't yo-yo on and
off
a diet. I don't understand why you would think so.
There is nothing stopping deterministic systems from being confused, idiotic,
self-contradictory, etc. Really. Not unless you are adopting a very very
strange
and nonstandard definition of "deterministic."
I think I am going to stop responding to your messages, personally, because we
simply are not communicating in a useful way.
-- Ben G
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