> -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Bromer [mailto:jimbro...@gmail.com] > > On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 12:40 AM, John G. Rose <johnr...@polyplexic.com> > wrote: > The ideological would still need be expressed mathematically. > > I don't understand this. Computers can represent related data objects that may > be best considered without using mathematical terms (or with only incidental > mathematical functions related to things like the numbers of objects.) >
The difference between data and code, or math and data, sometimes need not be as dichotomous. > > I said: > I think the more important question is how does a general concept > be interpreted across a range of different kinds of ideas. Actually this is not so > difficult, but what I am getting at is how are sophisticated > conceptual interrelations integrated and resolved? > > John said: Depends on the structure. We would want to build it such that this > happens at various levels or the various multidimensional densities. But at the > same time complex state is preserved until proven benefits show themselves. > > Your use of the term 'densities' suggests that you are thinking about the kinds of > statistical relations that have been talked about a number of times in this > group. The whole problem I have with statistical models is that they don't > typically represent the modelling variations that could be and would need to be > encoded into the ideas that are being represented. For example a Bayesian > Network does imply that a resulting evaluation would subsequently be encoded > into the network evaluation process, but only in a limited manner. It doesn't for > example show how an idea could change the model, even though that would be > easy to imagine. > Jim Bromer > I also have some issues with heavily based statistical models. When I was referring to densities I was really meaning an interconnectional multidimensionality in the multigraph/hypergraph intelligence network, IOW a partly combinatorial edge of chaos. There is a combination of state and computational potential energy that an incoming idea, represented as a data/math combo, would result in various partly self-organizational (SOM) changes depending on how the key - the idea - effects computational energy potential. And this is balanced against K-complexity related local extrema. For the statistical mechanisms I would use for more of the narrow AI stuff that is needed and also for situations that you can't come up with something more concrete/discrete. John ------------------------------------------- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=8660244-6e7fb59c Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
