Abramo Bagnara wrote:
We have been kind of hard on you recently Abramo. Possibly we are just trying to get a reaction. I am almost 100% certain that the problem lies in none of the above.Paul Davis wrote:Paul Davis wrote:[ ... ]The rest is obvious, of course ;-)))i deeply and sincerely this was funny. but it isn't.What do you mean with that? Documentation has not been written for lack of funding and lack of volunteers. This is self-evident and if you're insinuating I'm the one to blame I believe you're definitely unfair.no, i am not insinuating that. i just wish that when users come knocking on ALSA's door, we had something better to show them than a declarative syntax for a configuration file they can't imagine that they need. i don't have the time, you don't have time, nobody, it seems, has the time. so those of thus who know and love ALSA can do good things with it, and others get to scratch their heads and ask "what are these guys doing?"This was my prophecy written to SuSE and ALSA team more than 18 months ago. IIRC I wrote this also privately to you. ALSA community (and I'm a guilty, senior member of it) has not (yet?) been able to make a supportable business of ALSA itself and this hurts. I've felt the *desire* to develop ALSA furtherly for months (mix plugin, more scopes, network layer, callback model, etc.), ideas and improvement swarmed in my brain, while I had to use my time working for other things to pay my bills. You know I've believed in ALSA value more than any other, but perhaps (and I underline _perhaps_) I was wrong. If you put together skilful, most motivated people, a worthwhile (from the economic point of view) project, an interested active community and this mix is unable to found a supportable business, I might deduce one or more of the following: a) people are not skilful enough b) community is not interested enough c) project does not worth enough Personally I'm trying to take back a) honestly and at best of my ability in my work life. Others will do what they think best.
My opinion is that there is not enough people working on the promotional side of ALSA and Linux Audio. I wrote to LAD about this last week.
As an example the harmony central site doesn't even link to the alsa site.
I guess this problem could be explained under b) with a caveat. Instead of community it should say Promoters. Because AFAICT the community is definitely interested in ALSA.
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