Last time I looked at Naviserver, it had removed 3 facilities from AOLserver: 1) Support for optional $conn argument in ns_return*, etc commands 2) ns_share 3) ns_set -persist
We have a lot of AOLserver code still in use dating from as long ago as 1995. ;-) Removed $conn was a minor annoyance as we could create wrappers for the commands in question Removed ns_share was a more serious problem and would require essentially re-writing in tcl an equivalent facility using variable traces. Removed ability to create shared/persistent ns_sets was not possible to work around and was a deal breaker for us. As a side-note we use ns_share and persistent ns_sets for 99.9% read-only config type data. -Alex Hisen http://aolserver.am.net -----Original Message----- From: Maurizio Martignano [mailto:maurizio.martign...@spazioit.com] Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 9:28 AM To: 'Fenton, Brian'; 'Frank Bergmann'; 'John Buckman from BookMooch' Cc: aolserver-talk@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [AOLSERVER] naviserver to replace aolserver? This is a very good question. I just started (today) having a look at Naviserver, and I have more experience on Aolserver on Windows than on Naviserver, anyhow, for what I have been able to see up to now: 1. I can compile Aolserver with Visual C++ Studio 2010 and 2012 both 32 bit ad 64 bit 2. Aolserver sources have some Windows specific makefiles that I used for the compilation mentioned in point 1 and they do work 3. Naviserver has a Win32 folder containing some Visual Studio project files (something similar to the makefiles), but they are in Visual C++ Studio 2006 style. So my guess is that Naviserver has never been compiled for Windows 64. 4. I am not sure the ns_oracle driver I specially debugged and corrected for Quest and that works on Aolserver will work also Naviserver. So I will further investigate this point, but: If I do not manage to compile Naviserver on Windows 64 (as I said in other posts I am not at all interested in Windows 32) or If I do not manage to port my version of the ns_oracle driver I will stick to Aolserver. Regards, Maurizio -----Original Message----- From: Fenton, Brian [mailto:brian.fen...@quest.ie] Sent: 06 October 2012 18:00 To: 'Frank Bergmann'; 'John Buckman from BookMooch' Cc: aolserver-talk@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [AOLSERVER] naviserver to replace aolserver? Hi all I fully support any efforts to merge both projects. One question though: is Naviserver supported on Windows? Best wishes Brian -----Original Message----- From: Frank Bergmann [mailto:fra...@fraber.de] Sent: 06 October 2012 13:13 To: 'John Buckman from BookMooch' Cc: aolserver-talk@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [AOLSERVER] naviserver to replace aolserver? Hi, > Question: what does aolserver have that might need to be merged into > naviserver? Gustaf Neumann recently got ]project-open[ running on NaviServer without any issues with tcl8.5.11 + xotcl 2 + libthread (head) + tdom 0.83. There are a few compatibility issues, but they are minor, so that we can confirm from our user perspective that there is nothing missing in NaviServer. We are currently running OpenACS 5.7.0 as the base for ]po[ V4.0. Cheers, Frank -----Original Message----- From: John Buckman from BookMooch [mailto:j...@bookmooch.com] Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 3:48 AM To: aolserver-talk@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [AOLSERVER] naviserver to replace aolserver? > Yes -- I think I recall Naviserver splitting because we weren't > responsive at Aol. Made sense at the time -- there was just no justification for Aol to support the project at the time. > > Merging back makes sense. I'm guessing it's easier to fix whatever is perceived as not working with Naviserver and freeze Aolserver than the other way around? Just a guess. I always liked the Naviserver name better anyway... I'd vote for trying to get onboard the naviserver wagon, as a) they seem to have had a lot of innovation b) their documentation has apparently come a long way c) their handling of scalability, leaking and memory bloat is apparently further along than aolserver d) their project name doesn't make people cringe. Question: what does aolserver have that might need to be merged into naviserver? -john ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. 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