Hi Alex!

Unfortunately, we do have some tcl code that goes on before the image file 
requests.  So, at the moment, I am thinking of getting those tasks 
offloaded ASAP from the connection threads to serve valuable requests 
instead of the static files.  Scalability has been a sticking point for 
years now and I hope to finally get something working to address this.

Regards.

On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 10:27:32 AM UTC+8, Alex Hisen wrote:
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>  Hi, Sep. 
>
>  
>
> If you don’t need to run any tcl code when serving these requests and you 
> still want to serve them using AOLserver (as opposed to some other web 
> server or a CDN), you can take advantage of pools to segregate threads for 
> serving these static resources into their own pool. If those threads never 
> allocate a tcl interpreter, they will be an order of magnitude smaller in 
> footprint than your normal threads and so you can just have a lot of them.
>
>  
>
> We have a module that you might find useful that helps with this:
>
> http://aolserver.am.net/code/modules/ampools.adpx
>
>  
>
> -Alex Hisen
>
>  
>
> *From:* Sep Ng [mailto:thejack...@gmail.com <javascript:>] 
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 19, 2015 5:52 PM
> *To:* aols...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>
> *Cc:* aolserv...@lists.sourceforge.net <javascript:>
> *Subject:* Re: [AOLSERVER] AOLserver questions
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>  
>  
> Generally, what I hope to achieve is that all of these static files will 
> be offloaded into a single connection thread(?)  So, when a request for a 
> static file comes in, I can push it to this sleeping thread and then serve 
> another request while this sleeping thread will look up the image and do 
> ns_returnfile (I guess).  At least, this is how I'm envisioning it right 
> now.
>  
>  
>  
> I don't know if I'm looking at it right or not.  Judging from my readings 
> on Gustaf's work, this is how it would operate.  Feel free to correct me if 
> I'm looking at this totally wrong.
>  
>
> On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 8:42:04 AM UTC+8, Tony Bennett (Brown Paper 
> Tickets) wrote:
>
>  Scheduling isn't needed. I read your question again and I understand 
> what you're looking for.  You're asking for all the javascript and images 
> on a page to be sent in one request correct?  You'll need to find a way to 
> buffer the output and then parse and change the buffer before it's sent.  
> It would be nice to have this be part of ns_register_filter postauth.
>  
> On 3/19/15 5:12 PM, Sep Ng wrote:
>  
>  Thanks for the reply.  I am perhaps confused with all of this.  It seems 
> that if I use the scheduling proc, I can start a thread that runs 
> perpetually and does nothing.  Then, I can use tclthread API to transfer 
> control into this and issue some proc that would perform mutex and serve 
> the file to the current ns_conn details and quit.  Am I thinking this right 
> or am I being stupid? :-)
>  
>
> On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 5:09:20 AM UTC+8, Tony Bennett (Brown Paper 
> Tickets) wrote: 
>
>  Look at the scheduling commands at 
> http://panoptic.com/wiki/aolserver/Tcl_API.  You could make an image 
> processing queue that runs in it's own thread and it won't take up any 
> connections.
>
> Tony
>  
> On 3/18/15 11:09 PM, Sep Ng wrote:
>  
>  Hi all, 
>  
>  
>  
> I've been reading up on aolserver background delivery tricks on OpenACS 
> and I've seen that the patches for the static TCL channel is already in 
> 4.5.1.  In the spirit of improving server performance, I've been wondering 
> if such facility is worth building on the custom app to increase 
> concurrency and scalability.
>  
>  
>  
> Most of the time, our aolserver also has to handle incoming requests for 
> multiple jpeg, javascript libraries, and a lot of other things.  Freeing up 
> the connection thread sounds very useful in improving the server 
> scalability so I wanted a little bit of help on getting this to work.
>  
>  
>  
> It's been hard trying to wrap my head around using ns_conn channel and 
> what I can actually do with this static TCL thread.  It seems that I should 
> be redefining ns_returnfile to use background delivery.  Could I use it to 
> push a TCL proc that generates given the parameters, the dynamic page to 
> this TCL channel to free up my connections?
>  
>  
>  
> Sep
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