On Monday 07 April 2008 20:46, Dossy Shiobara wrote: > I wrote this in an email to Jim Davidson privately, earlier today: > | The problem with secure and reliable software is you [the software > | developer] really have no leverage to _make_ people upgrade. > | Insecurity and instability are actually a benefit to open source > | projects because users are forced into upgrading--not to keep > | current, but just to keep functioning.
Dossy, your goals are at extreme odds to most anyone I know. Maybe join the Microsoft team so you can _make_ people upgrade. One question I have is why you think it is important to have an 'active and engaged community' if there is very little left to do? It is baffling why something which works needs to have active development, which forces users to upgrade for no good reason. > I'm at the point where I no longer ask myself "how do I change this" but > "is there really any need to change this?" > > If you answer "yes" ... I'd like to hear your reasons why. People who actually care about community, ask first. When have you ever, honestly, done that? If only you would follow your own advice and say why you are changing stuff before you do it, that might help quite a lot, I haven't been able to detect any reason behind your changes. Personally I always ask "is there really any need to change this", that is the first question, and with AOLserver, the answer is usually 'no'. Instead of focusing on content, you seem stuck on changing software tools, tools which nobody uses, and then there is a plea for icons and logos. This is total bs. Can we get back to the basics here? This is not some php project which needs eye candy to attract teenagers to hack at source code. The bottom line is that until you articulate what you want to do, discussing how you want to do it is a waste of time. AOLserver source code has arrived. Trying to create a community around a desire for change is an extremely destructive idea. Most everyone using AOLserver is very happy with the stability of the code. If they are not happy, they are very likely misinformed, so who cares. What is missing is documentation. We have a structured documentation which was derailed a few years back by the wiki idea. Now we have a new wiki tool, or whatever wordpress is. Yet we have no new content. Wonder why? I would venture to guess that nobody here cares at all to learn wiki or wordpress in order to document source code. Anyway, you asked. tom jackson -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with the body of "SIGNOFF AOLSERVER" in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
