I am in the 8th year of 3 year staggered planting growth of a Tall Spindle
Apple Orchard.
The Planted Area is about 2.5 acres containing 1750 trees.
As a first time grower in a VERY windy/blustery location, I did not want to
deal with movement or collapse.
Hence I chose 14ft long treated Yellow southern Pine 5-6 Posts driven 4
feet into the ground by a hydraulic ram.
We were very careful to keep the rows stright and posts Plumb.
Posts are spaced to allow 10 trees between them @ 3 ft spacing per tree.
This left 10 feet of post to support 4 wires
each helping the trees to withstand wind pressure.

The end supports for each row are pinned @ about 8ft to anchor posts driven
4 ft into the ground & secured with guide wires @ 45 degree angles.  This
created an equalateral triangle at each end offering very strong, stable
support.
The wire is high tensile 12 guage fence wire.  All wires have been
tightened by hand with a wire stretcher, using grepples and two leaded
crimps on each tail. There has been little change in the wire tightness ie
slack.  In 2015 we produced 55,000lbs of apples in a not yet mature
Orchard.  We are striving for about 400 more bushels or 56 to 57,000 pounds
as a max.  That's a good amount of support from this design.

On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 9:10 AM, Jon Clements <jmcext...@gmail.com> wrote:

> George, I can't build anything straight, so I refrain from giving advice
> on trellis construction!
>
> But, we all might find this information useful:
>
> Constructing a vineyard trellis, Paul Domoto
>
> http://www.prairiefirewinery.com/Cellar/wp-content/uploads/
> 2016/12/Vineyard-Trellis-Construction.pdf
>
>
> How to Build Orchard and Vineyard Trellises - Book
>
> http://www.kencove.com/fence/Vineyard+Trellis_detail_ABT.php
>
>
> Orchard and Vineyard Trellis Construction: Part 1
>
> http://blog.kencove.com/orchard-and-vineyard-trellis-construction-part-1/
>
>
> TALL SPINDLE ORCHARD SUPPORT SYSTEMS
>
> http://www.omafra.gov.on.ca/neworchard/english/apples/9trellis.html
>
>
> Experiences with Support Systems for the Tall Spindle Apple Planting System
>
> http://nyshs.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/1.Experiences-
> with-Support-Systems-for-the-Tall-Spindle-Apple-Planting-System.pdf
>
>
> Trellis Support Systems for High-Density Apples
>
> http://www.hort.cornell.edu/expo/proceedings/2017/TreeFruit%20Weather.%
> 20Trellis%20Support%20Systems%20for%20High-Density%20Apples.pdf
>
> On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 2:39 PM, George Greene <cortla...@icloud.com>
> wrote:
>
>> David and All:
>>
>> I remember someone burying 5 foot pieces of telephone poles, cross-wise,
>> perhaps 3-5 feet deep at the end of a row.  Most of the trellises I built
>> in Biglerville PA survived.
>>
>> I did have a Geneva Double-Curtin grape trellis fail when, after a big
>> wind storm flipped up one side of the Double-Curtin grape trellis, the
>> terrific imbalance caused the posts to snap off.
>>
>> Come on where are all of the experts like Jon Clements or others who are
>> the experts.  I thought that one (or by now several) states had Extension
>> Bulletins on this subject.
>>
>> Be well, George
>>
>> On Mar 31, 2017, at 2:04 PM, David Kollas <kol...@frontier.com> wrote:
>>
>> Kurt and Mo:
>>
>> Thank you for your comments.
>>
>> If pull-out is the reason for discarding the Duckbill anchoring method, I
>> wonder if a larger model would
>> overcome that.  The largest Duckbill model is about 12 inches long.  A
>> second line of “duckbills”, also by Foresight
>> Products, is called Manta Ray, and is made for increased resistance,
>> installed with hydraulic jackhammer.  There
>> are also options for stoney soils  (ductile iron, hot-dipped in zinc,
>> rather than the standard aluminum).  However,
>> searches of company websites, and telephone contacts, have been short on
>> pertinent,applicable value in my recent
>> efforts.
>>
>>     The thought of trying to put auger-type anchors in my stony land does
>> not appeal to me, and driving
>> posts has never attracted me either.  Channel iron does seem worth
>>  trying, but I am hoping to find something
>> I could get really excited about.
>>
>> David
>> Kollas Orchard, CT
>>
>>
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