Vincent: Maybe the dropping left the LARGER fruits on the tree? I don't know if poor pollination results in both smaller fruit AND more early drop of the smallest, poorly-seeded fruits, but I can suppose it is a possible explanation of your observation.
David Kollas Kollas Orchard, CT On Jan 13, 2014, at 12:12 PM, Vincent Philion <vincent.phil...@irda.qc.ca> wrote: > Hello, I’m analyzing some data and I have seemingly contradictory results. > I’m hoping someone can comment and make sense of this: > > For a number of randomly selected trees, fruit drop was recorded starting > late summer until harvest. For each tree, we recorded total fruit drop (and > weight), harvested fruit (and weight) and the total (drop + harvest). As I > was looking at the data, I noticed average harvested fruit size > (weight/number) was related to Total fruits per tree… Nothing strange, until > I realized harvested fruit size INCREASED with Total fruit number on tree. As > if the fruit dropping left more energy for the remaining fruits to grow? > > I was expecting harvested fruit size to be smaller on trees that had more > total fruit, not the other way around. > > I’m not sure this late natural fruit drop can be compared to very late hand > thinning, but does anyone know if fruit size increase can be linked to late > thinning (notwithstanding total yield that can go down)? > > Maybe this is “normal”? > > Any comment welcome! > > Vincent > > > > > > > > Vincent Philion,M.Sc. agr. Microbiologiste > Phytopathologiste pomiculture > > > > > Institut de recherche et de développement en agro-environnement > Research and Development Institute for the Agri-Environment > > www.irda.qc.ca > > Centre de recherche > 335, Rang des Vingt-Cinq Est > Saint-Bruno-de-Montarville (Québec) J3V 0G7 > > vincent.phil...@irda.qc.ca > > Bureau: 450 653-7368 poste 350 > Cellulaire: 514-623-8275 > Skype: VENTURIA > Télécopie: 450 653-1927 > > Verger expérimental > 330, Rang des vingt-cinq Est > Saint-Bruno-de-Montarville (Québec) J3V 4P6 > Téléphone et télécopieur : 450 653-8375 > Local pesticide: 450-653-7608 > > > Pour nous trouver, cliquer sur le lien: > Laboratoire > Verger > > Fiers héritiers du travail des frères Saint-Gabri : > http://arboretum8gabrielis.wordpress.com > > Like most of the data I deal with, I'm best described as either "zero > inflated Poisson", or "zero inflated negative binomial". Anything but > "Normal". > > Un expert est une personne qui a fait toutes les erreurs qui peuvent être > faites dans un domaine très étroit. > ~ Niels Bohr > > C'est pas parce qu'ils sont nombreux à avoir tort qu'ils ont raison… > ~ Coluche > > To call in the statistician after the experiment is done may be no more than > asking him to perform a post-mortem examination: he may be able to say what > the experiment died of. > ~ Sir Ronald Aylmer Fisher > > The plural of anecdote is not data. > ~ Roger Brinner > > The combination of some data and an aching desire for an answer does not > ensure that a reasonable answer can be extracted from a given body of data. > ~ John Tukey > > Prediction is difficult, especially of the future. > ~ Mark Twain (also attributed to Niels Bohr and Yogi Berra) > > There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics. > ~ Mark Twain or Disraeli > > Without deviation from the norm, Progress is not possible. > ~ Frank Zappa > > If you don’t know where you are going, you will wind up somewhere else. > ~ Yogi Berra > > You can see a lot just by looking. > ~ Yogi Berra > > Poor, but proudly at the highest step I'm qualified for. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Principle > > Inhibiteur de rodomontades depuis 1992. > > Ce que l'on conçoit bien s'énonce clairement, et les mots pour le dire > arrivent aisément. > ~ Nicolas Boileau-Despréaux > > Vingt fois sur le métier remettez votre ouvrage > ~ Nicolas Boileau-Despréaux > > Keep your stick on the ice > ~ The Red & Green show > > Quid quid latine dictum sit, altim videtur. > ~ Stéphane Laporte > > Audi alteram partem > Qui potest capere capiat > > AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALITÉ > Ce message peut contenir de l'information de nature privilégiée et > confidentielle. Si vous n'êtes pas le destinataire visé ou croyez l'avoir > reçu par erreur, nous vous saurions gré d'en aviser l'émetteur. Si ce message > vous a été transmis par erreur, veuillez le détruire sans en communiquer le > contenu à d'autres personnes ou le reproduire > > _______________________________________________ > apple-crop mailing list > apple-crop@virtualorchard.net > http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop
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