I’m surprised that your graphic (and I think I heard the same from Marc 
Trapman) suggests that in Europe they recommend using LLS only on wet leaves 
whereas the old info from Burrell suggested that it should NOT be applied to 
wet leaves.  Any explanation?
> On Apr 7, 2016, at 5:31 PM, Vincent Philion <vincent.phil...@irda.qc.ca> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> 
>>      I heard at the Hudson Valley RIMpro meeting last
>> month that bicarbonate is used in Europe during rainfall
> 
>> That would seem to necessitate repeated applications during an infections 
>> period. Does it have no after-infection value?
> 
> In replicated tests over the years, we saw value in using bicarbonate in a 
> “short” post-infection window. (250DH). However, If spraying your orchard 
> takes more than 12 hours, these “soft” molecules are not for you. In the same 
> tests, Inspire Super or Fontelis or Aprovia are better. No question.
> 
> 
> We use RIMpro to time bicarbonate in order to clean up spores ejected 
> typically the day before. Timed properly, you don’t “usually” need multiple 
> sprays. We adjust to risk (RIM value). If conditions dictate an additional 
> spray, then we advise it.
> 
> 
> We know enough about spore ejection dynamics to spray it “when it hurts”. 
> 
> Granted, Infections that extend for many days can be tricky. But usually, 
> bicarbonate is tank mixed with sulfur so you are getting dual action = some 
> kick back and protection for spores to come. 
> 
> Not sure the picture will be sent via Apple Crop. But I attached one slide I 
> use with growers (from Trapman)
> 
> <PastedGraphic-2.tiff>
> 
> 
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