Sondon Now that I am thinking, changing the name Orissa (r = ro) to Odissa (d=dore ro) is real dumb if they mean to keep the pronunciation same as Orissa. Now nobody would pronounce it Orissa, and everybody would pronounce it Odisa. ( This also shows how Sanskrit is still controlling the ignorant intellectuals).
In Assamese it is what we call, 'Gorom bhator dhwai khwa.' or 'Burir kam nai, xakot bon di base'. Anyhow this is a good answer to the opponents of the spelling Oxom who claim that nobody would pronounce X as Assamese XO. If Oriyans can write D and expect people to pronounce it as R, Assamese also can write X and expect people to pronounce it as XO. Thanks Rajen > From: cmaha...@gmail.com > Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 10:33:26 -0500 > To: assam@assamnet.org > Subject: Re: [Assam] Parliament approves new name for Orissa > > >Could be! but isn't it the same thing that some of us want Assam to be > >written as Oxom, or Asom (some like and some hate). > > **** Not soooo fast , A ! Did you really think I did not attempt to even > think this thru :-)? Different issues here. > > This is how: > > ASOM is neither Assam, an ancient name of our region, nor is it Oxom, as the > predominantly known sound of the > geographical area thus named. ASOM is a misguided ( to put it mildly) and > ignorant ( to say it like it is) way to transliterate > the Oxom name in Roman script. ASOM does NOT sound anything like Oxom. And > the ONLY reason for attemting to re-name > Assam to ASOM, is based on the IGNORANT argument that Assam was a colonial > term, coined by the British. > > See the difference? > > I don't know HOW the Oriyas pronounce the name of their state: as Orissa, or > Orisha or Odisha or some other form. > But if I am unaware of the peculiarity of this 'd' letter representing an > 'rd' sound, then I would pronounce Odisha's 'd' > as in Godiva, completely turning the intent behind the change on its head. > > > c-da > > > > > > > On Mar 26, 2011, at 9:59 AM, Alpana B. Sarangapani wrote: > > > > > > > Could be! but isn't it the same thing that some of us want Assam to be > > written as Oxom, or Asom (some like and some hate). It may not make sense > > to others but it does to us. > > > > There are some other Indian words that are spelt with a 'd' but pronounced > > as 'r'. These words only come to my mind right now...Kadai-chicken and > > Kodai-kanal. > > > > Now I am not sure if I am doing a 'khugi gaali-khuwa' work from you this > > morning :), C'da, but had to say this as you seem to understand the need > > for Oxom(?), but did not Odisha. > > > > It would be difficult to keep up with all these name changes, Odisha, > > Chennai, Mumbai, Pune, and hopefully 'Oxom', someday, no? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> From: cmaha...@gmail.com > >> Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 09:07:17 -0500 > >> To: assam@assamnet.org > >> Subject: Re: [Assam] Parliament approves new name for Orissa > >> > >> It is a matter for the Odiyas. But somehow I fail to understand how the > >> 'r' replaced with 'd' will feel them any more Odiya than Oriya, considering > >> the fact that few English speakers would know the difference or care. > >> > >> It is, at best, a demonstration of ethnic insecurity. > >> > >> cm > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Mar 26, 2011, at 12:02 AM, Bidyananda Barkakoty wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> > >>> Parliament > >>> approves new name for Orissa > >>> > >>> PTI – Thu, Mar 24, 2011 > >>> 2:36 PM IST > >>> > >>> New Delhi, March 24 (PTI) Orissa will hereafter > >>> be called ''Odisha'' and the Oriya language will be known as ''Odia'' with > >>> Parliament giving approval to amendment of the Constitution and also > >>> passing > >>> the related bill. > >>> > >>> The Rajya Sabha passed the Orissa > >>> (the Alteration of Name) Bill and adopted the Constitution (113th) > >>> Amendment > >>> Bill after a brief debate with members from all parties hailing the move > >>> as > >>> "historic" for people of the state. > >>> > >>> Supported by all parties, including > >>> the Biju Janta Dal, the Constitution Amendment Bill was adopted by all 169 > >>> members present and voting. > >>> > >>> Such a bill requires support of at > >>> least two-third of members present and voting. Besides, the majority of > >>> the > >>> strength of the House should be present for voting. The Upper House has a > >>> strength of 245 members. > >>> > >>> Lok Sabha has already adopted these > >>> measures after the Centre received the resolution passed by the state > >>> Assembly. > >>> > >>> While there was all round support > >>> for the measure, BJP and Congress members sought to target Chief Minister > >>> Naveen Patnaik charging him with non-performance and heading a government > >>> facing scams. > >>> > >>> The bills were piloted by Home Minister P Chidambaram. > >>> However, the electronic voting system witnessed glitches during the > >>> division so > >>> much so that even Prime Minister Manmohan Singh''s vote was also cast > >>> wrongly. > >>> > >>> Participating in the debate, > >>> members said the name change was the process of decolonisation as > >>> Britishers > >>> had changed the Indian names of cities and states. > >>> > >>> Pyarimohan Mohapatra (BJD) said it > >>> was a "great moment" for people of the state and added that with the > >>> change of name, they are getting back their pride. > >>> > >>> R C Khuntia (Cong) rued that the > >>> state, which was prosperous once, has become poverty-stricken. He, > >>> however, > >>> hoped the change of name will fulfil aspirations of people. > >>> > >>> He said the state was facing many > >>> scams and corruption charges in the present rule. > >>> > >>> Rudra Narayan Pany (BJP) charged > >>> the Orissa > >>> Chief Minister with non-performance and said Patnaik could not speak even > >>> the > >>> local language. His colleague Chandan Mitra said, "Orissa regains its > >>> prestige and sense of history." > >>> > >>> Mitra said while India''s heritage > >>> was revered in many parts of the world, "we have forgotten our own > >>> heritage." > >>> > >>> There have been many cities and > >>> states that have been renamed after independence. These include > >>> Thiruvananthapuram > >>> (Trivandrum), Mumbai > >>> (Bombay), Chennai > >>> (Madras), Kolkata > >>> (Calcutta), Pune (Poona), Kochi > >>> (Cochin) and Bangaluru (Banglore). > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> assam mailing list > >>> assam@assamnet.org > >>> http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> assam mailing list > >> assam@assamnet.org > >> http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > > assam mailing list > > assam@assamnet.org > > http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org > > > _______________________________________________ > assam mailing list > assam@assamnet.org > http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org _______________________________________________ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
