Paul, Greetings. Your comment might be true, but it is meaningless in the present context.
>From your statement I suspect that you have not flown a PW 5 for 100 hours or >so, and probably not even for 1 hour. We are talking quite different orders of (REDUCED), magnitude of performance here compared to LS 8 or even LS 4, or your own SZD 55. You might be somewhat surprised at just how many hours Allan now has in a LS 8. I don't know either, but my guess is well over 100 hours maybe closer to 150 hrs. More than enough anyway, to be rated as competent, and competitive on type. Genuine, experienced, PW 5 drivers at World level, understand every nuance of their ship and the air they are flying in and react accordingly.Just in case you are missing the point that I made in line 3 above, they have to react quite differently to a LS 4 (or LS 8), driver. Allan is a great pilot, but I repeat, he is at a huge disadvantage. I understand that he may have less than 5 hours on type (PW 5). Think about it! I certainly hope that Allan can put in a great performance, and meet (or exceed), the goals that he has set for himself in the upcoming comp. Which leads me to ask; "How are you going on meeting your own goals?" Regards, Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Bart To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 9:01 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Argentinian Worlds >> So, as Tim has intimated, these are the reasons why Allan has changed classes and will now be flying World Class - I hope; albeit at a huge disadvantage to the rest of the field, given his inexperience in a PW 5. Hmmm, the fact that he did not have too much time in LS8 does not seems to be hurting him too much in the US right now :). Cheers Paul On 30 June 2012 20:32, <gstev...@bigpond.com> wrote: Hi Ron, Have you made it to WA yet? Tut, tut, tut. Graft and corruption in Argentina; how can you possibly say that? In this case, I think that what you really meant to say was that a certain party has been granted a "special franchise" to handle the customs arrangements. I am sure you understand how this system works. Any pilot is quite free to use somebody else, but ........do keep in mind that if said pilot chooses the "alternate" route "Nothing can be guaranteed". I will leave it to your imagination to suppose which of the many dire possibilities that can happen, WILL actually happen. Do keep in mind too, that "importing the glider" is regarded as one exercise, and "exporting the (same) glider" is regarded as a totally different exercise - so (just for a start), read "pay double". A very level playing field (for all but the Argentinean competitors): As long as you are a millionaire pilot and can pay on demand without hurting too much, or fully funded by your country regardless of cost, you will not have a problem! I think that Tim will prove right on the numbers. I fell really sorry for Mike Durrant. He told me recently, that the true cost to be competitive in Standard Class in Argentina was of the order of A$50,000.00. This involved importing in, and then exporting out a competitive glider as NO glider was available for hire in the whole of South America, let alone in Argentina. Any competitive glider in SA would already be entered into the competition! Ron, I think the quanta of those "custom handling fees" you mentioned is about right, but maybe one of the people with first hand knowledge can confirm this? So, as Tim has intimated, these are the reasons why Allan has changed classes and will now be flying World Class - I hope; albeit at a huge disadvantage to the rest of the field, given his inexperience in a PW 5. I sure would like to know how Craig and Tobias are managing (if at all), these basically financial/logistical problems. It would seem that, as always, the flying is the easy(?) part of the exercise, but more so in this venture! Regards, Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: Ron Sanders To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Argentinian Worlds With 10,000 USD required as graft to get a glider thru customs I think the IGC should have cancelled the event and held it some where where corruption is not the name of the game. On 30 June 2012 11:37, Tim Shirley <tshir...@internode.on.net> wrote: Hi Ron, As I understand it there have been significant problems with the costs and bureaucratic difficulties of getting gliders into the country. Apparently there are very few modern gliders available locally. I believe that Allan will now be flying in the World Class as it is possible for him to hire a PW5 in Argentina. Tobi Geiger, Craig Collings and Mike Durrant were in the original team with Allan - Mike has withdrawn because of the costs but I assume that Tobi and Craig are still attending. Both are in Club Class. This has not only affected Australia, there are many others around the world who are facing this problem. It may be a fairly small event. Cheers Tim tra dire e fare c'รจ mezzo il mare On 30/06/2012 13:21, Ron Sanders wrote: ONLY Alan?????? On 29 June 2012 20:04, Ian Mc Phee <mrsoar...@gmail.com> wrote: Think Allan Barnes will be there. 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