Mike,

It’s all about driving a large fuselage through the air. The quite small size 
difference between say, a Discus A and B fuselage makes an appreciable 
difference in performance, particularly at higher speeds. Compare the massive 
size difference between an ASG 29 and a two seater fuselage. I don’t know what 
the actual drag figures are but they must be a large difference. Likewise the 
two seater ASH 25 and Nimbus 3DMs and 4DMs are left far behind the ballasted 18 
metre gliders when the speeds get up a bit. The actual Arcus fuselage is very 
similar to the 20 year old Nimbus 3D fuselages so I guess there was not much 
scope to improve them much.The Jonkers JS fuselage is reputed to be an exact 
copy of an earlier German glider. Actually expected the new Schleicher 32 
fuselage, being a new design, to have lesser drag but the information from 
Finland is not indicative of a substantial improvement. Time will tell. Am sure 
you could give us some useful information on drag calculations,

Harry Medlicott    
From: Rob Izatt 
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 7:09 PM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. 
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] 20M gliders

You can get two people in a two seater and share the fun which is the 
wholepoint of said two seaters. Without handicaps glider comps would be even 
less viable.  

On 12 Jul 2014, at 5:59 pm, Mike Borgelt <mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com> 
wrote:


  From what has been written here over the last few days, it is disappointing 
that a new flapped 20M two seater doesn't have as good performance as a 15M 
unflapped glider. 

  Mike



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