I'd keep an eye on a thread over at digitalspy from others are experimenting
with the Freesat EPG data currentlty being transmitted.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=751053

Dave


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Matthews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk>
Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 11:29 AM
Subject: Re: [backstage] Freesat info for open source projects


> Hi Matt,
> Thanks for taking the trouble to find out.  I rather thought that there
> would be some issue of exclusive access to the specs.  At least Freesat
> are aware of the issue.
>
>  From the MHEG side I can at least experiment with the test streams that
> are already being transmitted and try to reverse engineer them.  It
> mostly works already with the current code and I was actually alerted to
> the test streams by someone noticing the "Press Red" banner.  What would
> be really nice would be to have some information that would allow MythTV
> to use the EPG information in Freesat.  There have been hints about
> where the test transmissions might be found but nothing substantive.
>
> Clearly the success of Freesat depends on the involvement of the set-top
> box manufacturers.  However, open source projects also have a role to
> play in providing testing and feedback.  After all, at the moment
> probably the only people who can view the MHEG test transmissions,
> outside the labs, are MythTV users.
>
> Thanks again,
> David
>
> Matt Hammond wrote:
> > Hi David,
> >
> > The Freesat platform is being set up and managed by a separate company
> > (of the same name) that has been set up by those participating (BBC, ITV
> > etc).
> >
> > I've asked around the team at R&D who are working with them on the
> > technical infrastructure and specifications. Unfortunately it looks like
> > the information you're after will not be widely available (at least not
> > yet).
> >
> > What I've been able to establish is that Freesat identified the need to
> > guarantee a supply of compliant set top boxes at launch. A group of
> > manufacturers have agreed to do so, but only in exchange for a limited
> > term of exclusive access to the specification. I have no idea what the
> > length of this exclusivity arrangement will be.
> >
> > Personally, I would very much like to see these specs eventually opened
> > up - we've certainly benefited from many of the open-source developments
> > for DVB-T / Freeview. I believe Freesat are aware of this consideration,
> > so I'm hoping it will be something they eventually choose to do.
> >
> > This is as much as I have been able to find out for you. Apologies for
> > it taking a little while.
> >
> > Matt
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 12:58:55 -0000, David Matthews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I don't know if this is the right place to ask but I was wondering if
> >> there was information available about the technical details of Freesat
> >> that could be used in open source projects.
> >>
> >> Specifically, I wrote and maintain the MHEG engine that is used in
> >> MythTV.  It appears that the BBC has started test transmissions on
> >> satellite of the MHEG interactive service.  It's possible to view much
> >> of this using the current code in MythTV but it seems that the profile
> >> on Freesat is a superset of the Freeview profile so not everything
> >> works.  Presumably information about this is available to the builders
> >> of set-top boxes but it would be nice if it could be available for
> >> open-source projects.  There have also been references to the EPG
> >> information being transmitted but again there is nothing publicly
> >> available about how to decode it.
> >>
> >> Incidentally, I've been working on a translation of the MHEG engine
> >> from its original C++ into Java to produce an application/applet for
> >> viewing MHEG offline or via HTTP.  I'm rather short of MHEG test
> >> programs although I have recorded some of the carousels off air.  Does
> >> the BBC have some test programs available?
> >>
> >> David.
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