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Volume 2 : Issue 6 : "text" Format
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Re: NY Times article on Bangle <wob>
Re: The Bug is biting
Re: The Bug is biting
Re: The Bug is biting
Re: The Bug is biting
Re: E65 Front End.
Re: Warsteiner (Was Bangle article)
G35
12V power socket conundrum
Re: 12V power socket conundrum
Re: 12V power socket conundrum
Re: 12V power socket conundrum
Re: 12V power socket conundrum
Re: The Bug is biting
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 10:30:16 -0800
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: NY Times article on Bangle <wob>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Good thing for me I'm neither Bavarian nor respectable!
Scott Miller
GGC BMW CCA
>Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 07:35:49 -0500
>From: "Woody" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: NY Times article on Bangle
>Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>No respectable Bavarian would drink Warsteiner.
>Woody
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Neil Deshpande" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Wasn't the trunk opening modified, but with restraint
>> to make sure it would accept a carton of Warsteiner or
>> something w/o excess tilting? Or, is that an urban
>> legend?
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 14:12:39 -0500
From: Neil Maller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The Bug is biting
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
on 1/29/04 11:41 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> The bug is biting on getting a high performance 3 series.
>
> As someone who has driven all of the cars you're asking about, and owns a
> 330i, let me chime in.
>
> E36 vs. E46 -- The new chassis is far superior to the old. The revised
> suspension is much more composed over rough surfaces, much more
> comfortable, and the 330i is almost as quick as the old M3 sedan.
I own a (wonderful) E36 M3, and have driven a 330i both on the street and
track, and echo what Peter says about it. The E46 chassis is noticeably more
rigid than the E36, and the suspension, despite being similar in general
design, is notably more refined.
Guess what? A decade or so of development pays off.
However in everyday driving the E46 does feel a little more detached as far
as road feel goes, although in hard cornering the steering loads up nicely.
The 330i is definitely slower than my M3, although the double VANOS engine
is so smooth that the sensation of speed tends to be masked. The 6 speed is
nice to have for relaxed interstate work. The Alcantara seats and steering
wheel in the 330i are just plain wonderful.
Now of course a 330i is going to cost a bunch more at this point than a used
E36 M3. But if both are within the buyer's financial comfort zone I can't
see buying into 15 year old technology, unless it's mostly for track use.
Neil
96 M3
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 15:30:55 -0600
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: "Robinson, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The Bug is biting
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"Robinson, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > G35 -- Nissan sure as hell makes one amazing motor. This car
> > offers much that the 3-series does, at a lower price.
> > Downsides? I'm not a huge fan of the cosmetics,
You are kidding, right?
Very decent looking shell, IMHO.
Hands down better than the busy E46.
> > and the 330i is proven faster in testing.
Hmmmm:
350Z 330Ci
Weight: 3200# 3400#
HP: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Torque: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Certainly not faster.
Might be quicker to some artificial benchmark where one car has to shift
more than the other.
> > A worthy competitor, but one most people want even
> > think twice about 10 years from now.
>
> I think it only is slower in the 0-60 blast due to having to shift
> to 3rd. Due to the trick options available on the G35....brembos,
> Torsen LSD, etc, this car should be faster at the track & more
> consitent as well. I thought this car was way better than any E46
> I've ever driven.
Amen.
alex f
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 16:41:54 -0500
From: "Robinson, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: The Bug is biting
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hey, i didn't write all of that......
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 16:31
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: Robinson, Lee
> Subject: Re: [UUC] The Bug is biting
>
>
>
> "Robinson, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > G35 -- Nissan sure as hell makes one amazing motor. This car
> > > offers much that the 3-series does, at a lower price.
> > > Downsides? I'm not a huge fan of the cosmetics,
>
> You are kidding, right?
> Very decent looking shell, IMHO.
> Hands down better than the busy E46.
>
> > > and the 330i is proven faster in testing.
>
> Hmmmm:
> 350Z 330Ci
> Weight: 3200# 3400#
> HP: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Torque: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Certainly not faster.
> Might be quicker to some artificial benchmark where one car
> has to shift
> more than the other.
>
> > > A worthy competitor, but one most people want even
> > > think twice about 10 years from now.
> >
> > I think it only is slower in the 0-60 blast due to having to shift
> > to 3rd. Due to the trick options available on the G35....brembos,
> > Torsen LSD, etc, this car should be faster at the track & more
> > consitent as well. I thought this car was way better than any E46
> > I've ever driven.
>
> Amen.
>
> alex f
>
>
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 15:42:40 -0600
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: "Bill Heumann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The Bug is biting
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"Bill Heumann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The only car in the same price range that I sometimes feel like may
> have been better medicine for my mid life crisis is the Vette Z06.
> Of course, this isn't a very direct comparison since the Z06 only
> a two seater and really screams out to everyone the problem you are
> having.
Bill,
I take it you haven't looked at the Viper ;-)))
> Having been in a friend's Z06, it is another outrageous car. The hp
> of the E46 M3 combined with the high rpm peak is not outclassed by
> the Vette though.
Actually, it is.
Z06 will devour E46M3 everywhere: autoX, track, straight line.
And Z06 is lighter on top of all that.
No competition.
> The 330 hp M3 is a truly obscene toy for street use. The BMW DSC
> is the best on the market for helping prevent you from becoming
> intimate with a tree while you learn how to handle the car.
Maybe. And Z06 has so much torque it needs diff and tranny coolers (n/a
from factory) to keep the lube from overheating in under 30 minutes of
track time.
alex f
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 19:20:49 -0000
From: "Andrew Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: E65 Front End.
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
"Must've been a little over a year ago (?), I was riding my road bike on
Lake
Drive in Fox Point (nice residental area, long straight road along the lake
shore) when I got buzzed by some a-hole in a big-ass Volvo. Damn Volvo
drivers."
I was recently tailgated through the City of London by a black Cayenne S
(only on the straight bits though, and we don't have many of those). It
scared the bejesus out of me. Damn Porsche drivers.
"Looks like a damn Volvo to me :)"
[The Cayenne] looks like the bastard child of a Touraeg and a New Beetle to
me :)
Andy T
'03 318i 2.0
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 13:27:05 -0600
From: "Malcolm Reitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Warsteiner (Was Bangle article)
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sorta reminds me of the first trip I ever made to Houston.
Me: "Well, I'm in Texas now, I think I should have a Lone Star beer."
Steakhouse waiter: "You really don't want to do that."
Me: "I don't?"
Waiter: "I'm a native Texan. Trust me, you don't."
Me: "I'll have a Corona, please."
Malcolm - living in Texas, but not drinking Lone Star
'88 M5
'98 328i
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 12:15 PM
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Subject: Re: [UUC] Warsteiner (Was Bangle article)
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I think it just means it is flavored water just like bud light.
Nothing
wrong with bud light, I order it myself when the selection doesn't offer
something I prefer. But it is like ordering tea when the wine list is
sub
standard too. Not what you want, not much flavor but on the same hand,
not
painful to drink. But in most places that would serve Warsteiner, they
tend to have other, much better choices available.
And I have noticed several German nationals make comments about 'piss
water'
referring to Warsteiner. So if the locals don't think much of it,
tells ya
something.
Mike
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From: "Carey Probst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 11:13 AM
Subject: [UUC] Warsteiner (Was Bangle article)
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>
>
> now question....is that because Warsteiner is not made in Bavaria or
because Warsteiner is an official sponsor of the McLaren Mercedes F1
team?
>
> does the mean us bimmer heads must drink Bud?
>
> From: "Michael Lawrence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Amen,
>
> English translation for Warsteiner = Bud Light or atleast according to
some
>
> German folks transferred here for work.
>
> Mike
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: "Woody" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 7:35 AM
>
> Subject: Re: [UUC] NY Times article on Bangle
>
> > No respectable Bavarian would drink Warsteiner.
>
> > Woody
>
>
>
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 11:43:06 -0800 (PST)
From: kjk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: G35
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I haven't posted to the digest in a while but actually
have some first hand experience with this subject. I
instructed in a G35 sedan at Buttonwillow and then the
next day actually had a student in a Coupe. I own an
E46 Touring (323iT).
First impression, G35 sedan is a nice car (kind of
ugly interior but I am not concerned with that).
Bigger than an E46 but doesn't have the German
tightness and thunking of doors. Feels a little less
substantial. I drove it for a few laps to show the
student the line and my impression was that the car
was good but not a BMW. On turn in it was twitchy (you
could feel a little delayed twitch in back, kind of a
touch of oversteer). A BMW is usually much better than
that at the limit. Given the free maintenace on the
BMW, it is a close call(freshalloy.com has lots of
posts about brakes and transmissions). The G35 would
be a bit more practical for a family.
The Coupe was better and a bit faster. I don't like
the engine at high rpm. Strong but almost buzzy.
Again, pretty cool car for the money.
Overall, I like the competition. Someone finally
realized it has to be rear wheel drive to compete with
BMW. However, it is close enough that my loyalty
would lean me towards BMW (I think the 330 ZHP may be
the last great three series).
Kevin Kelly
'91 M5
'00 323iT
previously owned '94 Maxima (literally cost free for 6
years but handled worse than a Range Rover)
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 22:08:22 -0000
From: "Andrew Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 12V power socket conundrum
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Has anyone installed an auxiliary 12V power socket lately? I bought some
bits last week, based on an old Ron Stygar installation, to provide power
for GPS speed camera detector mounted next to the instrument cluster. The
bits are from a Touring, which has an extra power outlet in the cargo area.
I installed the socket in the small glovebox to the right of the (RHD)
steering column (left-hand side for LHD cars). I used power from the loom
feeding the light switch unit and OBD connector: brown for ground, and
white/purple for power switched in ignition position 1 and above.
I measured a 12.4V feed at the wires feeding the power socket. Then I
plugged the ground and switched power connectors into the socket, and the
voltage dropped to around 5V. Hmm. I took the 12V power socket out, and
measured its resistance with nothing plugged into it: 4 kilohms. Hmm again.
I am unable to measure any other electrical characteristic (capacitance,
inductance), but my physics taught me that a resistance will not cause a
voltage drop - only a current drop.
Any suggestions for appropriate power sources? I can't go straight to the
battery; that's 10 feet away in the back of the car and I only need about
300 mA to power this little GPS device. I have considered running a
parallel power wire from the cigarette lighter in the centre console, but
that's hot all the time. There much be something else I can use from that
maze of wires behind the driver's dash.
The car is a RHD E46 318i, Valvetronic motor, March 2003.
Thanks
Andy T
'03 318i 2.0
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 17:26:07 -0500
From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 12V power socket conundrum
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Resistance causes a voltage drop. You must be connected to the wrong thing.
There are plenty of full power wires in the car. Some models have auxiliary
hookups in or near the fuse box.
Gary Derian
>
> I measured a 12.4V feed at the wires feeding the power socket. Then I
> plugged the ground and switched power connectors into the socket, and the
> voltage dropped to around 5V. Hmm. I took the 12V power socket out, and
> measured its resistance with nothing plugged into it: 4 kilohms. Hmm
again.
> I am unable to measure any other electrical characteristic (capacitance,
> inductance), but my physics taught me that a resistance will not cause a
> voltage drop - only a current drop.
>
> Any suggestions for appropriate power sources? I can't go straight to the
> battery; that's 10 feet away in the back of the car and I only need about
> 300 mA to power this little GPS device. I have considered running a
> parallel power wire from the cigarette lighter in the centre console, but
> that's hot all the time. There much be something else I can use from that
> maze of wires behind the driver's dash.
>
> The car is a RHD E46 318i, Valvetronic motor, March 2003.
>
> Thanks
>
> Andy T
> '03 318i 2.0
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 14:33:52 -0800
From: "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 12V power socket conundrum
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
In my universe resistance causes a voltage drop ;-)
I tapped into my cig lighter socket since I never use it.
Marco
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Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 2:08 PM
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Subject: [UUC] 12V power socket conundrum
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Has anyone installed an auxiliary 12V power socket lately? I bought some
bits last week, based on an old Ron Stygar installation, to provide power
for GPS speed camera detector mounted next to the instrument cluster. The
bits are from a Touring, which has an extra power outlet in the cargo area.
I installed the socket in the small glovebox to the right of the (RHD)
steering column (left-hand side for LHD cars). I used power from the loom
feeding the light switch unit and OBD connector: brown for ground, and
white/purple for power switched in ignition position 1 and above.
I measured a 12.4V feed at the wires feeding the power socket. Then I
plugged the ground and switched power connectors into the socket, and the
voltage dropped to around 5V. Hmm. I took the 12V power socket out, and
measured its resistance with nothing plugged into it: 4 kilohms. Hmm again.
I am unable to measure any other electrical characteristic (capacitance,
inductance), but my physics taught me that a resistance will not cause a
voltage drop - only a current drop.
Any suggestions for appropriate power sources? I can't go straight to the
battery; that's 10 feet away in the back of the car and I only need about
300 mA to power this little GPS device. I have considered running a
parallel power wire from the cigarette lighter in the centre console, but
that's hot all the time. There much be something else I can use from that
maze of wires behind the driver's dash.
The car is a RHD E46 318i, Valvetronic motor, March 2003.
Thanks
Andy T
'03 318i 2.0
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 14:40:55 -0800
From: "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 12V power socket conundrum
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
oops. I just saw you want a switched circuit.
Try the sunroof motor if you have one. Or one of the radio circuits.
Marco
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In my universe resistance causes a voltage drop ;-)
I tapped into my cig lighter socket since I never use it.
Marco
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 2:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [UUC] 12V power socket conundrum
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Has anyone installed an auxiliary 12V power socket lately? I bought some
bits last week, based on an old Ron Stygar installation, to provide power
for GPS speed camera detector mounted next to the instrument cluster. The
bits are from a Touring, which has an extra power outlet in the cargo area.
I installed the socket in the small glovebox to the right of the (RHD)
steering column (left-hand side for LHD cars). I used power from the loom
feeding the light switch unit and OBD connector: brown for ground, and
white/purple for power switched in ignition position 1 and above.
I measured a 12.4V feed at the wires feeding the power socket. Then I
plugged the ground and switched power connectors into the socket, and the
voltage dropped to around 5V. Hmm. I took the 12V power socket out, and
measured its resistance with nothing plugged into it: 4 kilohms. Hmm again.
I am unable to measure any other electrical characteristic (capacitance,
inductance), but my physics taught me that a resistance will not cause a
voltage drop - only a current drop.
Any suggestions for appropriate power sources? I can't go straight to the
battery; that's 10 feet away in the back of the car and I only need about
300 mA to power this little GPS device. I have considered running a
parallel power wire from the cigarette lighter in the centre console, but
that's hot all the time. There much be something else I can use from that
maze of wires behind the driver's dash.
The car is a RHD E46 318i, Valvetronic motor, March 2003.
Thanks
Andy T
'03 318i 2.0
__________________________________________________________________________
In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com
__________________________________________________________________________
In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 17:03:18 -0600
From: Aaron Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 12V power socket conundrum
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Andrew Thomas wrote:
> I measured a 12.4V feed at the wires feeding the power socket. Then I
> plugged the ground and switched power connectors into the socket, and the
> voltage dropped to around 5V. Hmm. I took the 12V power socket out, and
> measured its resistance with nothing plugged into it: 4 kilohms. Hmm again.
> I am unable to measure any other electrical characteristic (capacitance,
> inductance), but my physics taught me that a resistance will not cause a
> voltage drop - only a current drop.
i believe you're incorrect about the resistance -- it causes a voltage
drop, not a current drop.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=resistance+and+voltage+drop&btnG=Google+Search
could you be more specific on how you got the 5V reading?
> Any suggestions for appropriate power sources? I can't go straight to the
> battery; that's 10 feet away in the back of the car and I only need about
> 300 mA to power this little GPS device. I have considered running a
> parallel power wire from the cigarette lighter in the centre console, but
> that's hot all the time. There much be something else I can use from that
> maze of wires behind the driver's dash.
>
> The car is a RHD E46 318i, Valvetronic motor, March 2003.
>
> Thanks
>
> Andy T
> '03 318i 2.0
>
>
>
> __________________________________________________________________________
> In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
>
> UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
> 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 16:20:56 -0600
From: Dennis Wynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: The Bug is biting
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I think we were talking about the sedan, not the G35 coupe (or the 350Z).
The original poster was asking about a 4 door car.
The G35 sedan is no where near as nice looking inside or out as the E46
with premium and sports packs. It is a heck of a bargain VS a loaded
BMW, however. If he does not mind driving what looks like a old GM
car, the M45 gives you the Q ship motor for less money and they pretty
much have to deep discount them to move them.
My local BMW dealer treats me like a king (at least while I still have
warranty) and I always get a nice, low mile loaner car to go with the
free maintenance.
I don't think any of the suggestions mentioned are bad choices, so to
each his own.
Dennis
01 M5 silver/black
At 03:30 PM 01/29/2004 -0600, you wrote:
>You are kidding, right?
>Very decent looking shell, IMHO.
>Hands down better than the busy E46.
>
> > > and the 330i is proven faster in testing.
>
>Hmmmm:
> 350Z 330Ci
>Weight: 3200# 3400#
>HP: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Torque: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Certainly not faster.
>Might be quicker to some artificial benchmark where one car has to shift
>more than the other.
>
> > > A worthy competitor, but one most people want even
> > > think twice about 10 years from now.
> >
> > I think it only is slower in the 0-60 blast due to having to shift
> > to 3rd. Due to the trick options available on the G35....brembos,
> > Torsen LSD, etc, this car should be faster at the track & more
> > consitent as well. I thought this car was way better than any E46
> > I've ever driven.
>
>Amen.
>
>alex f
>
>
>__________________________________________________________________________
>In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
>
>UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
>Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
>908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com
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