The BMW UUC Digest Volume 2 : Issue 652 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?N=FCrburgring_trip?= Re: E-36 sedan question Re: E-36 sedan question Re: unknown springs in my garage... Re: unknown springs in my garage... Re: unknown springs in my garage... Re: unknown springs in my garage... Re: Replacing front hub assemble on E36 328i? Climate Control Headaches after replacement Re: Climate Control Headaches after replacement Re: M60 Coolant Usage Re: M60 Coolant Usage radiator replacement: was/: M60 Coolant Usage
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 13:01:22 -0400 From: Phil Marx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?N=FCrburgring_trip?= Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> August 8-10 this year. Look for the announcement in the June Roundel. Registration, not yet open, is on a first-come, first-served basis as always. http://www.autobahntours.com/nurburgring.htm. This is not an official BMW CCA event. -Phil Marx Keong Liam Lim wrote (quoting the entire digest!): >hi guys does anyone know if bmw cca is organizing a trip to >nurburgring this year? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 10:18:44 -0700 (PDT) From: david kroth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com Subject: Re: E-36 sedan question Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ed wrote: > Closer examination revealed a torn edge of sheet > metal towards the spare > tire area of the trunk extending from the fore and > aft member that is > the inboard side of the battery tray. I just noticed a similar thing on my E36 yesterday afternoon. My mounting point is still in tact, but about 50% of the metal tab is cracked. I suspect it won't be much longer before it breaks off completely and I have to wrap the jack in a rag to keep it from rattling around back there... David Kroth [EMAIL PROTECTED] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 12:22:47 -0700 From: Raza Uddin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com Subject: Re: E-36 sedan question Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Interestingly enough, I just discovered myself that both mounting tabs for the bracket have completely torn and is no longer attached the body. As far as I can tell, the jack has never been used and was only taken out when I cleaned the trunk or emptied it for track days. I believe the the bracket is attached with some sort of high-strength adhesive, so I don't think it will be easily replaced. I haven't noticed any noises that I could attribute to the jack rattling around, but I'm definitely going to fix it soon. I was planning on either J.B. Welding the bracket back to the points that mount to the body. Drive Safely, Raza On 5/9/05, david kroth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ed wrote: > > > Closer examination revealed a torn edge of sheet > > metal towards the spare > > tire area of the trunk extending from the fore and > > aft member that is > > the inboard side of the battery tray. > > I just noticed a similar thing on my E36 yesterday > afternoon. My mounting point is still in tact, but > about 50% of the metal tab is cracked. I suspect > it won't be much longer before it breaks off > completely > and I have to wrap the jack in a rag to keep it from > rattling around back there... > > David Kroth > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 10:21:04 -0700 (PDT) From: david kroth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com Subject: Re: unknown springs in my garage... Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Paul wrote: > Just found a set of springs in my garage...ahh > spring cleaning,... Ha ha. You so funny! > 3 pink/red paint swipes on one of the coils. Had the springs off my '98 M3 sedan this past weekend. There were four green dots on the rears and four yellow dots on the fronts. No match. David Kroth [EMAIL PROTECTED] __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 13:32:53 -0400 From: "chet.dawes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: unknown springs in my garage... Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Paul, I believe you're referring to my comments about H&R sport springs (318ti) vs. OE 318ti sport springs vs. OE '95 M3 springs. I have no experience with Eibach springs other than linear ERS (race-type) applications. Indeed, you can lower an e36 M3 by swapping in 318ti sport springs. The spring rate does not change an appreciable amount and the rear springs have the same type of mount. I can't speak to spring perch designs on the front..... I know I sold my set of OE 318ti sport springs for $100 a couple years ago. They were in perfect condition. H&R sport springs bring closer to $225+ for a set. If you'd like a set of OE '95 M3 springs, let me know (off list) I have a set I'd love to part with. But before you go and start swapping springs, it would be worth your while to check/measure the spring rates. You might be surprised at how little the OE actual rates vary with similar applications. Make sure you measure over the full operating range. You can't get a good measurement with 1" of total compression. Cheers, Chet Dawes -----Original Message----- From: "Paul Garnier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: unknown springs in my garage... How can I tell what application they are for? They are black and have 3 pink/red paint swipes on one of the coils. They have to be e30 or e36. I am hoping they are e36M3 as I just bought a 92 325iS. My mechanic and I are at odds as to whether the e36M3 bodies and the standard e36 coupe bodies are the same and whether the M3 parts can be used on the non-M cars. Paul A. Garnier Systems Integration FastNetworking 281-827-0725 cell/pgr From: "Paul Garnier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: unknown springs in my garage... I've read, on this digest no less, that 318ti springs can be used on an e36M3 for a cheap eibach upgrade. Did I misinterperate that? Paul A. Garnier Systems Integration FastNetworking 281-827-0725 cell/pgr **************************************************************************************** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and thus protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Thank you. **************************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 17:17:18 -0500 From: "Paul Garnier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com> Subject: Re: unknown springs in my garage... Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAt5ZDaGRzVESm4i9+EWhMouKAAAAQAAAAYr8MwQ+Ue0esr/[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Any one got a set of ti springs or H&R springs for an e36 M3 they lookin to sell? I got 2 cars I need sporty springs for. ! A 92 325iS future track dog, currently commute guerilla fighter. And a 98 Dakar yellow M3 with a worn out Schnitzer stage 3 system on it. I think Schnitzer used Koni's but I'm not sure. I can't seem to find inserts for the setup Paul A. Garnier Systems Integration FastNetworking 281-827-0725 cell/pgr -----Original Message----- From: chet.dawes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 12:33 PM To: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: unknown springs in my garage... Paul, I believe you're referring to my comments about H&R sport springs (318ti) vs. OE 318ti sport springs vs. OE '95 M3 springs. I have no experience with Eibach springs other than linear ERS (race-type) applications. Indeed, you can lower an e36 M3 by swapping in 318ti sport springs. The spring rate does not change an appreciable amount and the rear springs have the same type of mount. I can't speak to spring perch designs on the front..... I know I sold my set of OE 318ti sport springs for $100 a couple years ago. They were in perfect condition. H&R sport springs bring closer to $225+ for a set. If you'd like a set of OE '95 M3 springs, let me know (off list) I have a set I'd love to part with. But before you go and start swapping springs, it would be worth your while to check/measure the spring rates. You might be surprised at how little the OE actual rates vary with similar applications. Make sure you measure over the full operating range. You can't get a good measurement with 1" of total compression. Cheers, Chet Dawes -----Original Message----- From: "Paul Garnier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: unknown springs in my garage... How can I tell what application they are for? They are black and have 3 pink/red paint swipes on one of the coils. They have to be e30 or e36. I am hoping they are e36M3 as I just bought a 92 325iS. My mechanic and I are at odds as to whether the e36M3 bodies and the standard e36 coupe bodies are the same and whether the M3 parts can be used on the non-M cars. Paul A. Garnier Systems Integration FastNetworking 281-827-0725 cell/pgr From: "Paul Garnier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: unknown springs in my garage... I've read, on this digest no less, that 318ti springs can be used on an e36M3 for a cheap eibach upgrade. Did I misinterperate that? Paul A. Garnier Systems Integration FastNetworking 281-827-0725 cell/pgr **************************************************************************** ************ Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and thus protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Thank you. **************************************************************************** ************ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 15:26:53 -0700 From: JKerouac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "chet.dawes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: unknown springs in my garage... Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Haven't seen it mentioned yet on this spring thread, the part number is stamped in top or bottom coil of the spring. That will clear up any confusion what the springs came from. The Bentley E30 book has a great spring table showing variances in ride height between each different part number. Barry chet.dawes wrote: >Paul, >I believe you're referring to my comments about H&R sport springs >(318ti) vs. OE 318ti sport springs vs. OE '95 M3 springs. I have no >experience with Eibach springs other than linear ERS (race-type) >applications. >Indeed, you can lower an e36 M3 by swapping in 318ti sport springs. The >spring rate does not change an appreciable amount and the rear springs >have the same type of mount. I can't speak to spring perch designs on >the front..... >I know I sold my set of OE 318ti sport springs for $100 a couple years >ago. They were in perfect condition. H&R sport springs bring closer to >$225+ for a set. > >If you'd like a set of OE '95 M3 springs, let me know (off list) I have >a set I'd love to part with. But before you go and start swapping >springs, it would be worth your while to check/measure the spring rates. >You might be surprised at how little the OE actual rates vary with >similar applications. Make sure you measure over the full operating >range. You can't get a good measurement with 1" of total compression. > >Cheers, >Chet Dawes > > >-----Original Message----- >From: "Paul Garnier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: unknown springs in my garage... > >How can I tell what application they are for? They are black and have 3 >pink/red paint swipes on one of the coils. > >They have to be e30 or e36. I am hoping they are e36M3 as I just bought >a 92 >325iS. My mechanic and I are at odds as to whether the e36M3 bodies and >the >standard e36 coupe bodies are the same and whether the M3 parts can be >used >on the non-M cars. > >Paul A. Garnier >Systems Integration >FastNetworking >281-827-0725 cell/pgr > >From: "Paul Garnier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: unknown springs in my garage... > >I've read, on this digest no less, that 318ti springs can be used on an >e36M3 for a cheap eibach upgrade. Did I misinterperate that? > >Paul A. Garnier >Systems Integration >FastNetworking >281-827-0725 cell/pgr > >**************************************************************************************** > >Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and >confidential and thus protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message >is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for >delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified >that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is >strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please >notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your >computer. Thank you. > >**************************************************************************************** > >Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com > > >__________________________________________________________________________ >In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > >UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate >Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! >908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > > > > -- The box said "Requires Windows 95, or better." So I bought a Macintosh. I live with fear, death, and evil...but I used to be able to turn it off and use a Mac. " Author Unknown Failure is not an option. It comes bundled with your Microsoft product. -- Ferenc Mantfeld ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 12:24:06 -0500 From: Neil Maller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com" <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Replacing front hub assemble on E36 328i? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 5/9/05 11:10 AM, P Kroon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How often do the front wheel hub assemblies need to be > replaced? As often as necessary <g> Certainly it's not unreasonable to expect them to be worn out at 102K miles. Jack the front, push the brake pads back so they don't touch the rotors, spin the wheels. If there's any rumbling noise the bearings are due for replacement. Try to wiggle the wheels. If there's any discernable play (other than from the resilient mounted ball joints) then the bearings are overdue for replacement. > The car has 102k now, and I suspect that > the bad ball joints didn't add any additional length > to the lifespan of the hubs. Also, how difficult is > it to replace them? Are any special tools needed? Do > they bolt in place or are they pushed in place? I've > replaced front hubs on my old Jeep, and that wasn't > too hard. See: http://www.unofficialbmw.com/e36/suspension/e36_replace_front_wheelbearing.h tml Neil Fort Wayne, IN 96 M3 - Bastard child 03 525iT - Sterling Grey Metallic 77 MGB - Original owner, need to sell 05 Mini - Cooper S with LSD! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 16:18:19 -0400 From: "Gaudio, Stefano" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com> Subject: Climate Control Headaches after replacement Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ok here is the story in short: '98 E36 M3 with bad - aka cycling on and off etc... - climate control. After 2 replacements covered by aftermarket warranty the issue is still there. Worth noting is that the "windshield defrosting air outlet" - or whatever you call it - is stuck shut. An independent mechanic has quoted me over $800 to replace what he thinks is a $50 part that has broken but that will require to take apart the whole dash. Is it possible that the stuck part is making the unit go stupid? Certainly, having the climate control unit shut off and direct 200+ degree air to my feet in the summer is not cool! I was going to drop it off to the dealer - I hate the dealer - and see if after I sign over my life - that's why I hate the dealer - they can diagnose anything. Any bright ideas? Thanks Stefano '98 M3 with the ultimately stupid climate control _____________________________________________________________ This e-mail and any attachments may be confidential or legally privileged. If you received this message in error or are not the intended recipient, you should destroy the e-mail message and any attachments or copies, and you are prohibited from retaining, distributing, disclosing or using any information contained herein. Please inform us of the erroneous delivery by return e-mail. Thank you for your cooperation. _____________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 13:52:11 -0700 From: "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com> Subject: Re: Climate Control Headaches after replacement Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I wouldn't be surprised. I recently ripped out the entire heating/ac unit in the race car in an effort to put it on a diet. I was amazed at the level of complexity in that thing. Lots of temp sensors, stepper motors, flaps, cables. And this was on a 95 which didn't have the digital controls like yours. It took me nearly 4 hours to get it out, and I wasn't trying to be nice and not break anything. Marco -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gaudio, Stefano Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 1:18 PM To: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com Subject: [UUC] Climate Control Headaches after replacement Ok here is the story in short: '98 E36 M3 with bad - aka cycling on and off etc... - climate control. After 2 replacements covered by aftermarket warranty the issue is still there. Worth noting is that the "windshield defrosting air outlet" - or whatever you call it - is stuck shut. An independent mechanic has quoted me over $800 to replace what he thinks is a $50 part that has broken but that will require to take apart the whole dash. Is it possible that the stuck part is making the unit go stupid? Certainly, having the climate control unit shut off and direct 200+ degree air to my feet in the summer is not cool! I was going to drop it off to the dealer - I hate the dealer - and see if after I sign over my life - that's why I hate the dealer - they can diagnose anything. Any bright ideas? Thanks Stefano '98 M3 with the ultimately stupid climate control _____________________________________________________________ This e-mail and any attachments may be confidential or legally privileged. If you received this message in error or are not the intended recipient, you should destroy the e-mail message and any attachments or copies, and you are prohibited from retaining, distributing, disclosing or using any information contained herein. Please inform us of the erroneous delivery by return e-mail. Thank you for your cooperation. _____________________________________________________________ Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 15:37:31 -0700 From: "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com> Subject: Re: M60 Coolant Usage Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks guys. Frickin radiator on the 540 broke today. My theory is you guys jinxed me ;-) Of course it has 50,500 miles. No more warranty :-( Luckily I was 4 miles from the shop that wrenches on the race car. Called them on the way there, told them to order a radiator and I'm in an out of there in less than 3 hours. Almost like having my own pit crew ;-) Marco sponsored by www.rennwerks.com -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Neil Deshpande Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 8:49 AM To: Ed MacVaugh; bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com Subject: Re: [UUC] M60 Coolant Usage Ed: Thanks! I'm going to take a look under the plenum, but the car is new to the owner and I may as well get in there and take a look so it is coming off even if I don't see anything. I've checked everything else already. This brings me to the next question: What should else I get while I'm in there? I don't mind a few bucks more spent so the owner does not have to hassle with this again. Once I have a list I'll order the parts and get ready. The repair is scheduled for mid-Jun. Thanks again! Neil Deshpande *** --- Ed MacVaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In my M60 740i, the coolant loss was two different times from the o-ring seals that seal the ends of two coolant tubes that run the length of the engine beneath the intake manifold. I could only see the coolant with a high intensity flashlight peering beneath the manifold with the top sound cover removed from the engine. Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 15:45:06 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Bassett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com Subject: Re: M60 Coolant Usage Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Mon, May 9, 2005 3:37 pm, Marco Romani said: > Thanks guys. Frickin radiator on the 540 broke today. My theory is you > guys jinxed me ;-) Of course it has 50,500 miles. Pretty much right on schedule for a BMW radiator :-) > No more warranty :-( Well if it broke at 49,500 miles, you'd have nothing to write about, would you? :-) > Almost like having my own pit crew ;-) > > Marco > sponsored by > www.rennwerks.com "Almost"? :-) Jim Bassett - nothing useful other than sarcasm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 16:02:55 -0700 From: JKerouac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com Subject: radiator replacement: was/: M60 Coolant Usage Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> This assumes the odo/speedo was correct to begin with, from past threads many BMWs read faster and farther than actual. What if there was 1% odometer error? Then you're still in warranty. Worn tires or a slightly lower tire size can give a percent difference. If you've gone a half size lower, such as 225/45x17 down to 245x40x17 that's 1.2%, other common half size changes are similar. Barry //M3 cooled by Marco's old radiator. Maybe that one's on borrowed time too? Before the curse hits 'Jack, who makes and sells E36 all aluminum radiators for a reasonable price? Jim Bassett wrote: >On Mon, May 9, 2005 3:37 pm, Marco Romani said: > > >>Thanks guys. Frickin radiator on the 540 broke today. My theory is you >>guys jinxed me ;-) Of course it has 50,500 miles.Pretty much right on >>schedule for a BMW radiator :-) >>No more warranty :-(Well if it broke at 49,500 miles, you'd have nothing to >>write about, would >>you? :-) >>Almost like having my own pit crew ;-) >>Marco >>sponsored by >>www.rennwerks.com >> >> >"Almost"? :-) > >Jim Bassett - nothing useful other than sarcasm > ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(13 messages) **********
