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Volume 2 : Issue 760 : "text" Format
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Re: CE lights and coolant leaks
Re: CE lights and coolant leaks
Re: <E36> behind-the-dash gurgle?
Re: <E36> behind-the-dash gurgle?
<E36> Low idle problem
Indianapolis Area assistance/leads needed
Re: Indianapolis Area assistance/leads needed
[uuc] Fuel info
<E36> Throttle plate cleaning
Mercedes reference needed ASAP ..
Mercedes reference needed ASAP ..
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Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2005 21:26:16 -0700
From: JKerouac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Neil Maller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com" <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com>
Subject: Re: CE lights and coolant leaks
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I _am still baffled, pleased that the CE is out, seems to be
staying out, and want to know if something simple was causing it that I
have now rectified.
The codes always were O2 sensor faults, I posted what they were on
take 1 of this thread. With the hosing downs, coolant leaks,
use/non-use of Redline SL1 fuel additive, now bigger radiator/ cooler
thermostat/ and water pump replacement, its a puzzle I need to sort out.
As you say, even with the codes, its not always simple. No need to ask
you how you know, I know too.
Barry
Neil Maller wrote:
>on 8/3/05 3:00 AM, JKerouac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>>It was baffling initially when the CE returned.
>>
>>
>
>Err, I submit that you're still baffled.
>Until you read the codes to find out what the CEL is protesting about you're
>basically wasting your time. In fact at present you can't even be sure that
>the CEL is recurring for the same reason. There are way too many things you
>can diddle with, and way too many things the CEL can take offense at, to
>hope that shots in the dark will hit the right target. The $150 investment
>in a Peake code reader could pay real dividends.
>In fact even when you do have the code readout it's not always simple - ask
>me how I know...
>Neil
>Fort Wayne, IN
>96 M3 - Bastard child
>03 525iT - Sterling Grey Metallic
>77 MGB - Original owner, need to sell
>05 Mini - Cooper S with LSD!
>
>
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Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 08:32:01 -0400
From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "JKerouac" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com>
Subject: Re: CE lights and coolant leaks
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
If the CE code indicated O2 sensor trouble, then perhaps that is a good
place to start. Their output dithers between about 0.2 volts and 0.6 volts
in response to the dithering fuel mixture. Either they are consistently too
low or consistently too high. Either the sensors are bad or the fuel mix is
bad. Considering you mucked about with your fuel system, it would not
surprise me if the fuel mixture was off in some ranges. Is this OBD II or
OBD I?
Monitor the O2 sensor outputs with a DVOM.
Gary Derian
> I _am still baffled, pleased that the CE is out, seems to be staying
> out, and want to know if something simple was causing it that I have now
> rectified.
> The codes always were O2 sensor faults, I posted what they were on
> take 1 of this thread. With the hosing downs, coolant leaks, use/non-use
> of Redline SL1 fuel additive, now bigger radiator/ cooler thermostat/ and
> water pump replacement, its a puzzle I need to sort out. As you say, even
> with the codes, its not always simple. No need to ask you how you know, I
> know too.
>
> Barry
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Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 08:14:40 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Kevin Jay (Mr.Fabulous)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com
Subject: Re: <E36> behind-the-dash gurgle?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Can somebody tell me what makes the flasher 'click' sound? Is this something
I can remove/replace?
- k
On Tue, 2 Aug 2005, Kevin Jay (Mr.Fabulous) wrote:
>
> Apologies for beating this to death... but I believe this has something to do
> with the turn signal/flasher 'click'. Where does that come from anyway?
>
> If I run the flashers, the gurgle/buzz/whatever stops while the lights light,
> and returns during the off half of the cycle. Not sure if it's the 'click'
> gizmo that's gurgling or something else in the path, but I'm onto something
> here. I pulled the flasher relay, no change. Failing/noisy switch? 'Click'
> thing failing? Anybody?
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Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 08:04:09 -0700
From: "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com>
Subject: Re: <E36> behind-the-dash gurgle?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
there is a "speaker/buzzer" under the dash that is used for the key chime
and door chime. I don't know if that is what makes the flasher sound, but
you could try removing that and seeing if the sound goes away.
Marco
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Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 6:15 AM
To: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com
Subject: Re: [UUC] <E36> behind-the-dash gurgle?
Can somebody tell me what makes the flasher 'click' sound? Is this
something
I can remove/replace?
- k
On Tue, 2 Aug 2005, Kevin Jay (Mr.Fabulous) wrote:
>
> Apologies for beating this to death... but I believe this has something to
do
> with the turn signal/flasher 'click'. Where does that come from anyway?
>
> If I run the flashers, the gurgle/buzz/whatever stops while the lights
light,
> and returns during the off half of the cycle. Not sure if it's the
'click'
> gizmo that's gurgling or something else in the path, but I'm onto
something
> here. I pulled the flasher relay, no change. Failing/noisy switch?
'Click'
> thing failing? Anybody?
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Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 10:18:32 -0500
From: "Malcolm Reitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com>
Subject: <E36> Low idle problem
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
An odd problem here...
Last weekend, I went to start the car and the ignition key moved to
"Run" and froze. It would turn backwards or forwards. I left the car
overnight, returned the next day and I eventually pulled the ignition
switch off the lock assembly and the key started turning again. The car
still wouldn't start (switch moved to "Start" but the starter never
engaged). I found I could jump the starter position and get the car
running, so I think the switch is bad. So far, OK. But, the odd part is
that, when the car does start now, it idles extremely low, probably
under 300 RPM according to the tach. This means the engine has a
tendency to die when I come to a stop with the clutch in, or when I turn
on the AC.
Any ideas on what has happened to the idle? Surely, it can't be related
to the ignition switch, or can it?
Thanks!
Malcolm
'88 M5 (doing daily driver duty this week)
'98 328i (hard starting and barely running)
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Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 09:33:05 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tammer Farid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com
Subject: Indianapolis Area assistance/leads needed
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hello Gruppe,
This is a general call for information/assistance/leads
that could lead to one of the above ...
You may have read about 5erFests in Bimmer mag, the
Roundel, or elsewhere. It is a gathering of E12 and E28
enthusiasts that, this year, brought over 200 people and
nearly 200 cars to the Zentrum in SC. The event lasts
about 4 days, with an autocross, track time if possible, a
concours, tech sessions and other fun stuff like sitting
around with beer and admiring each others' cars.
<http://www.5erfest2005.org> for info on the last event.
The 5erFest team is hoping to hold the '06 Fest in the
Indianapolis area. If you are or know of people local to
Indy who are BMW enthusiasts, E28 or otherwise, CCA members
or otherwise, who would be willing to provide local
information and perhaps assist in some logistical work,
please reply to me at this address. Even passing on the
names and e-mails of folks who wouldn't mind being
contacted would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks much! 5erFest has grown into an excellent event,
and though only E12/E28s can be in the show, all BMW
enthusiasts are welcome to attend and share in the fun.
Best regards,
tammer
'87 535is
Hoosier living in Philadelphia
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Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 20:09:47 -0400
From: "Rosario DeCicco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com>
Subject: Re: Indianapolis Area assistance/leads needed
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Tammer:
Give me a call 732 690 7804. I know just the person for this.
Rosario
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 12:33 PM
To: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com
Subject: [UUC] Indianapolis Area assistance/leads needed
Hello Gruppe,
This is a general call for information/assistance/leads
that could lead to one of the above ...
You may have read about 5erFests in Bimmer mag, the
Roundel, or elsewhere. It is a gathering of E12 and E28
enthusiasts that, this year, brought over 200 people and
nearly 200 cars to the Zentrum in SC. The event lasts
about 4 days, with an autocross, track time if possible, a
concours, tech sessions and other fun stuff like sitting
around with beer and admiring each others' cars.
<http://www.5erfest2005.org> for info on the last event.
The 5erFest team is hoping to hold the '06 Fest in the
Indianapolis area. If you are or know of people local to
Indy who are BMW enthusiasts, E28 or otherwise, CCA members
or otherwise, who would be willing to provide local
information and perhaps assist in some logistical work,
please reply to me at this address. Even passing on the
names and e-mails of folks who wouldn't mind being
contacted would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks much! 5erFest has grown into an excellent event,
and though only E12/E28s can be in the show, all BMW
enthusiasts are welcome to attend and share in the fun.
Best regards,
tammer
'87 535is
Hoosier living in Philadelphia
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Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 11:15:04 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com
Subject: [uuc] Fuel info
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
A bit dated but interesting things to read:
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/autos/gasoline-faq/part1/
-Kevin
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Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 14:40:25 -0700
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Subject: <E36> Throttle plate cleaning
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Since I have the Dinan CAI on the E36 with the cloth intake filter, I
thought I would clean around the throttle plate this weekend (it might
also reduce the cold engine temperament) but I've seen cautions about using
Carb Cleaner as possibly harming the O2 sensor. I've never heard of this
before, can anyone shed some light on this?
-Kevin
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Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2005 21:15:38 -0500
From: "BMWBits" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "E9coupes BMW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Senior Six Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
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Subject: Mercedes reference needed ASAP ..
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Anyone got a good baseline reference to the M-B 190 2.3-16 ?? It was
their 'answer' to the BMW E30 M3 ...didnt answer it very well on the
track, but still a nice road-car .Cheaper'n M3s too ..not much but some
..
There's one for sale locally that I want to go take a look at/drive in
tomorrow so I need some quick points of reference .
This one sounds like a 'hardly-driven garage queen ' from his
description on the phone so I dont want to miss it if it is good ..but
I need to be able to recognise 'good' when its stood in front of me ..
2.3 litre 16 valve , 5-speed , 4-door (2 more than the M3 !!) ,
aero-effects (airdam, rear spoiler etc ) ....but it's that hidden stuff
I need to know . Does it need 4,000 rpm before it comes alight ? Or 5k ?
. Where are the weaknesses -gearbox? Driveline ? Diff? , suspension
components ? Were Recaro-style seats stock ? ..yada yada ...
So , anyone got a good 'go-to' reference for me to start at ??
Bill Proud
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Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 00:05:24 -0400
From: Whit Lowell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: BMWBits <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: Uucdigest <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com>
Subject: Mercedes reference needed ASAP ..
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I think it deserves a COMPLETELY O/T subject addendum, but anyway...
The "Mercedes Tercel", as dubbed by Winfred Dixon, and the intimation
of ownership in the same sentence.....You can't be serious?!?
Check: the motor...cam lobe wear is, evidently, a big problem.
best, whit
On 8/4/05, BMWBits <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Anyone got a good baseline reference to the M-B 190 2.3-16 ?? It was
> their 'answer' to the BMW E30 M3 ...didnt answer it very well on the
> track, but still a nice road-car .Cheaper'n M3s too ..not much but some
> ..
> There's one for sale locally that I want to go take a look at/drive in
> tomorrow so I need some quick points of reference .
> This one sounds like a 'hardly-driven garage queen ' from his
> description on the phone so I don't want to miss it if it is good ..but
> I need to be able to recognise 'good' when its stood in front of me ..
> 2.3 litre 16 valve , 5-speed , 4-door (2 more than the M3 !!) ,
> aero-effects (airdam, rear spoiler etc ) ....but it's that hidden stuff
> I need to know . Does it need 4,000 rpm before it comes alight ? Or 5k ?
> . Where are the weaknesses -gearbox? Driveline ? Diff? , suspension
> components ? Were Recaro-style seats stock ? ..yada yada ...
> So , anyone got a good 'go-to' reference for me to start at ??
>
> Bill Proud
>
>
> Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com
>
>
> __________________________________________________________________________
> In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
>
> UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
> 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com
>
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