Dear Andrew and Stuart,
Having just now looked at the tablature, I wonder if the the instrument
intended was in fact the mandora rather than the cittern. Altho' most
mid-18thC mandora tunings are similar to the 'spanish' guitar intervals
(except mostly for only a tone between 5th and 6th courses) there are a
number of sources which require odd tunings - this may be one such.
And, of course, Moravia and Bohemia was the birthplace and heartland of
the mandora/gallichon - as also witnessed by the quantity of surviving
mandora tablatures in monasteries there.
Certainly the tablature looks exactly as other contemporary mandora
tablatures but I'm not particularly knowledgable about the cittern of
the same date in Moravia/central Europe: was it a common instrument? -
more so than the popular mandora?
Martyn
--- On Sun, 16/8/09, Andrew Hartig <cittern2...@theaterofmusic.com>
wrote:
From: Andrew Hartig <cittern2...@theaterofmusic.com>
Subject: [CITTERN] Re: Moravian Choralbuch [rights]
To: cittern@cs.dartmouth.edu
Date: Sunday, 16 August, 2009, 7:51 PM
I will need to check with Lanie Graf about the rights for
performance.
I think it may be a semantic issue of what qualifies as "music". I
believe the permission should be sought only for the reproduction of
the tablature (music) of physical manuscript (e.g. you would need to
seek permission if you were to create an edition or include a
photograph as part of a book).
Let me find out, and sorry for the confusion. Thanks also to all of
those who have taken an interest in this music!
Andrew
At 01:57 AM 8/16/2009, you wrote:
Hello Stuart,
That is strange nobody can play a music which is almost 300 years
old. In France, at this age, music is public with no more rights".
I am probably wrong, but I don't see well the problem.
Damien
----- Original Message ----- From: "Stuart Walsh"
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To: "Andrew Hartig" <[2]cittern2...@theaterofmusic.com>
Cc: <[3]citt...@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 11:42 PM
Subject: [CITTERN] Re: Moravian Choralbuch
Stuart Walsh wrote:
Andrew Hartig wrote:
Dear all,
Some time back Andy Rutherford had told us about a manuscript book
(BMB4) in the Moravian Archives of Bethlehem, PA (USA) for
6-course
cittern, tuned GCEgbe. Andy managed to get over there to take some
photos, and after quite a few emails with the folks at the
Moravian
Archives, I am pleased to announce that Andy's photographs of the
book are now available for public download from my web site.
I have compiled all of his photos into a single PDF (25 MB). You
can
get to it from the "Music Files" page of the Renaissance Cittern
Site, [1][4]http://cittern.theaterofmusic.com/musicfiles/ (scroll
down
to the "box" for 18th century music), where perhaps you may also
find something else of interest.
Special thanks again to Lanie Graf and all the other fine people
of
the Moravian Archives and Andy Rutherford for working together to
make this possible!
-Andrew
Very interesting and a great resource. Thanks Andrew. There's
lots
to ponder. For example the funny little 11 sign, which is perhaps
an
ornament. And these settings include the tune, as sung?
The chorale settings seem (after a quick look) quite full, with
voice leading etc. No 40 sounds vaguely familiar. Here's a quick
recording on a factory-made Russian guitar, but in the GCEgbe
tuning. A lot of the pieces are in C major, even though the tuning
isn't fully chordal.
[2][5]http://www.pluckedturkeys.co.uk/No40.mp3 (deleted - just
read
"The manuscript and its music may not be reproduced or published
without the consent of the Moravian Archives." Sorry!)
And here's one of the little dance tunes at the end (with a rather
glaring mistake in the repeat of the second strain!):
[3][6]http://www.pluckedturkeys.co.uk/Men3.mp3 (deleted)
I think it was Rob who said that James Tyler claimed that the
English guitar (guittar) has its origins in Germany. I haven't
seen
his (Tyler's) Evora paper. I looked at a link to the Evora papers
but it was dead. Anyway, I think Germany is a likely contender for
what got makers in Britain going in the 1750s. But the cittern in
Germany itself seems not to have got involved in the 'guittar'
fashion. And the music that exists (as far as I know) is in
'old-fashioned' tablature. Boetticher (if I've spelt his name
correctly) mentions some four-course music c.1750s and there's the
Bunsold tablature and now this.
Stuart
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4. http://cittern.theaterofmusic.com/musicfiles/
5. http://www.pluckedturkeys.co.uk/No40.mp3
6. http://www.pluckedturkeys.co.uk/Men3.mp3
7. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
8. http://cittern.theaterofmusic.com/musicfiles/
9. http://www.pluckedturkeys.co.uk/No40.mp3
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