On 6/28/07, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Some of the ASF Members have indicated a wish to draft a code of
conduct. A working draft of a set of "Community Guidelines" is
available on the incubator wiki,
* http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CodeOfConduct
Any comments would be very welcome.
So... I really dislike the BlogHer code of conduct, and what you've
got too. It's hard to explain why, so now I've ranted out loud to my
wife for a while, I'll try to see if I've got an explanation.
I fully agree with the crapness of what led to said code of conduct.
We shouldn't put up with people acting that way to a member of our
community (blogging in this case, not apache) unless that's something
they're signing up for. So biling Hani, sure. But harassing someone
whose given no reason that they're into such things, no.
The code of conduct is bad though. It's this thing that supposedly I'm
meant to be saying "Yes, I'll adhere to this code of conduct", but it
is far too close to licensing and legal talk. What is a moral right?
What is an obligation of confidentiality? Afaik I can do anything with
anything I'm given unless someone indicates its confidential (where my
employment ndas always seem to define lots as confidential etc). Same
for much of it. The authors are trying to define "play nice", but all
they do is create a list of things that if I have to sign up for will
mean someday that someone is going to accuse me of breaking said rule
because they interpret the vague words in some other way to me.
With "play nice", it's obvious that we're all interpreting things, but
with the attempted code of conduct there's an impression that it is
definitive and that I'm supposed to understand it all.
Slight side note. What's the punishment? Are we going to throw people
out of our community for breaking this? Are we only going to throw
them out if they sign up?
Laws exist and work (as such) because we punish people who break them.
The BlogHer code of conduct is useless afaict because there is no
punishment. Being able to waggle fingers at someone and tell them
they're breaking your code of conduct is useless. In our case, we
actually can punish; so I'd be scared to see us define something like
this. The blogging codes are harmless unless they're running your
server, for us it wouldn't be.
So on this.... I don't see the point.
Hen
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