Hi Nick > On 07 Apr 2016, at 12:47, Nick Wedd <mapr...@gmail.com> wrote: > > (What I meant was that some of the people posting to the list that you gave a > link to have failed to understand it.)
Yes that's why I gave you a direct link to my comment. But the confusion is probably my fault, because I failed to mention that you have to press the spoiler button to see the solution (When I see a button I press it, so I didn't think about it. In that regard I'm no different to my 14 Month old son…) To be more specific I think a correction could look like this: x . x x . x 9 6 . . x o o x 8 5 4 7 x o o x x 1 o 3 x x o x x . 2 x x o . o x o x x o o o o o o o x o o . o o x o x . x o o . . x o x x x o o . x . x . x x o . o In round 6 AyaMC played the move above against Fuego9. SGF. This looks hopeless for White because his left group has only two liberties. But when black played 4 he suffers a damezumari himself and he gets only a Seki and therefore losing the game. x 7 x x 5 x 1 2 6 9 x o o x a 8 4 3 x o o x x o o o x x o x x . x x x o b o x o x x o o o o o o o x o o . o o x o x . x o o . . x o x x x o o . x . x . x x o . o The correct but difficult to find move for black would have been 1 which makes miai of 2 and 3 creating another damezumari, this time for white, since he can not approach at a before black plays b. Now that we already spend so much time on an old game it would be interesting to know if the current programs can get this right? Thanks, David > On 7 April 2016 at 20:15, David Ongaro <david.ong...@hamburg.de> wrote: > Thanks, but what do you mean by that cheesy comment "Human players can find > this hard to understand"? If you want to make a meaningful comment you could > say that Fuego didn't understand the situation by playing h8 instead of g9. > > > > On 07 Apr 2016, at 11:31, Nick Wedd <mapr...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hi David, > > > > Thank you for telling me about this. I have added a link to the article. > > > > Best, > > Nick > > > > > > On 4 April 2016 at 16:53, David Ongaro <david.ong...@hamburg.de> wrote: > > Sorry for being late to the "game" (but you never specified a deadline till > > when you accept corrections). From: > > http://www.weddslist.com/kgs/past/41/index.html > > > > > Also in round 6, AyaMC played the move shown to the left, against Fuego9. > > > SGF. When I saw this move, I thought "this is hopeless for White, his > > > left group only has two liberties". But Black can never quite put the > > > two-liberty group in atari, and the marked move ensures that he never > > > will be able to. What is particularly impressive is that White knows > > > this, and has been working towards it for several moves, ignoring a ko > > > threat at a9 and sacrificing stones at b1 and d1. > > > > > > I showed already 2008 in a german Go forum that your intuition was right > > and the position was indeed hopeless for white: > > http://www.dgob.de/yabbse/index.php?topic=3314.msg153307#msg153307 > > > > > > > On 04 Apr 2016, at 06:33, Nick Wedd <mapr...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Thank you for noticing this. I will correct it when I am back at home and > > > can use a real computer. > > > > > > Nick > > > > > > On Apr 4, 2016 2:09 PM, "Seo Sanghyeon" <sanx...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > 2016-03-31 0:17 GMT+09:00 Nick Wedd <mapr...@gmail.com>: > > > > My report is at http://www.weddslist.com/kgs/past/S16.1/index.html > > > > As usual, I look forward to hearing your comments and criticisms; > > > > though I > > > > may not respond for a while, I am about to leave for a week's holiday. > > > > > > "In round 6, after 87 moves, Zen19S and JulieBot reached the position > > > shown > > > to the right (JulieBot is Black)." > > > > > > It seems that Zen19S should be ManyFaces1 instead. > > > > > > -- > > > Seo Sanghyeon > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Computer-go mailing list > > > Computer-go@computer-go.org > > > http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Computer-go mailing list > > > Computer-go@computer-go.org > > > http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Computer-go mailing list > > Computer-go@computer-go.org > > http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go > > > > > > > > -- > > Nick Wedd mapr...@gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > > Computer-go mailing list > > Computer-go@computer-go.org > > http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go > > _______________________________________________ > Computer-go mailing list > Computer-go@computer-go.org > http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go > > > > -- > Nick Wedd mapr...@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Computer-go mailing list > Computer-go@computer-go.org > http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
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