On 06/10/2012 03:03 PM, Florian Weimer wrote:

Does this mean they've seen the original certificate in addition to
the evil twin?

Until then, there is another explanation besides an advance in
cryptanalysis.  Just saying. 8-)

I guess I look at it like this:

Start with the simplest explanation:

        e0 - attacker implements cert collision attack much like that
             demonstrated by Stevens et al. in 2008, but having some
             different characteristics

Then take each explanation in turn from the e1 - eN other possible explanations like:

        e1 - attacker compromises system holding the RSA signing key
        e2 - attacker bribes Microsoft personnel into issuing evil cert
        e3 - attacker factors 1024 bit RSA
        e4 - attacker finds second preimage on MD5
        e5 - ... and so on

Then to that explanation add the additional requirement:

        ... *and* fools Marc Stevens into thinking it's a cert collision
        attack much like that demonstrated in 2008, but having
        some different characteristics.

So it's an advance in cryptanalysis either way. :-)

- Marsh
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