-Caveat Lector-

On Sat, 30 Jun 2001 15:47:09 -0700, John Cone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted
article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, which said:

> --- "Prudence L. Kuhn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > "We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created
> > equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable
> > rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness
> > -- That to secure these Rights, Governments are instituted among men,
> > deriving their just Powers from the Consent of the Governed, that
> > whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive to these Ends, it is
> > the Right of the People to alter or abolish it.  ..."
> >
> > Do we believe that, still?

I believe it, but what would happen if we moved to abolish the government?
Martial law.  Tienneman Square.  The Holocaust.

> Thankyou for posting this Prudy.  It's obvious that most Americans no
> longer believe in, or are even familiar with, these principles.  The
> public schools (government indoctrination centers) and the mass media
> have done a thorough job of erasing these beliefs from the public mind.
> There is a story about old Ben Franklin emerging from the Constitutional
> Convention after the signing.  A woman called out to him: "What form of
> government have you given us?"  He answered: "A Republic....if you can
> keep it."  We haven't.  It's gone.

Question is...what comes next?  What is the segue going to be?  I wonder if
we're heading to a time of a major abolishment of the few remaining freedoms
we have.  I'm thinking we are.  It's one of those rock bottom things, kind
of like alcoholics having to hit "rock bottom" before they can see the light
and turn things around.  Probably society will have to hit rock bottom
before the cat is cornered and it starts hissing and fighting.  It's just a
matter of compromises.  There is a power in place that wants more and more
control, so lawyers battle it out in court and a compromise takes place.
Later there is another compromise as someone, somewhere wants more control,
so we compromise again, each time giving up a little more freedom.

The sad part is that there is little I can do about it by myself.  There is
little we can do, even collectively, as members of this mailing list because
we're really not mainstreamers.  Mainstreamers are so strapped for cash that
mom and dad have to work, the kids are in daycare and everyone is so
exhausted by the time they come home that all they can manage to do is plop
down in front of the TV to absorb a few hours of propaganda before falling
asleep and repeating the same thing until the weekend when some of the
people get drunk, some of the people have sex and the rest just lay around
and recuperate from the hell of the weekdays.

Damaeus

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